Tried out the Tig at school today and this is what the end result was. It's a Miller........ syncrowave maybe or maybe those are the MIG's.

Anyways, these are a couple weeks old and I've gotten somewhat better but can't figure out which way to hold the tungsten. My teacher says stright up and down but then I can't get the filler rod underneath in the puddle or even move the puddle at that.

Already taking shots at ss and aluminum, though the aluminum is giving me a hard time. Anyone else hate how your hands smell after tigging for a while?

 

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Anyways, these are a couple weeks old and I've gotten somewhat better but can't figure out which way to hold the tungsten. My teacher says stright up and down but then I can't get the filler rod underneath in the puddle or even move the puddle at that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

15* from straight up and down away from the direction of travel for most flat stuff.

 

Ok so from what I understand, 15* and if your going from right to left...tilt it to the left? Do you hold it in your dominant hand and add filler w/ the other?

 

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No you tilt it away from your direction of travel. So if you are right handed going right to left you tilt the torch 15 deg to the right and add filler with your left hand as you travel along the piece.

PS clean those peices up a little bit more before you weld on it and report back. Honestly right now you are a little shakey on the welds for your first time but getting the postitions and movements down will help a LOT. There should be some sort of manual that came with the miller that will help you get the basic gist of what needs to be done. Other than that a little gooogle searching for random tig related searches will help you out a lot. Also check out the Miller website.

 

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Yes to the question about how to hold the torch. As far as tilting goes, you want to tilt the torch slightly so that the cup aims down the path of travel. If you tilt it too much you won't have proper shielding. Also, work on moving at a steady rate and adding filler at a steady rhythm as well. I think you should get that down on mild steel before moving to aluminum/stainless.

 

Well i've been practicing everyday for two weeks since these welds were done and I can lay a straight clean bead now. I'll get pics when I have time. I don't get help either from anyone as my instructor is a tool.

Also I didn't think they you would hold the torch that other way so I must've read it wrong. Don't know if they go hand in hand but my gas welds look professional from what i've seen around the site and other sites so maybe I just have to get a good pase down.

 

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What he said. Also practice on the thinnest stuff you can find, and crank the heat way up. What this will do is help you control the pedal to control your heat. You will find this helpful when it comes to welding stainless steal. If you burn the **** out of that you will know it, and knowing how to control your heat will come in handy. As stated before too. I hold mine on a flat piece wether it be a lap, or t weld. You can find the exact angle you want when you can melt both edges with one angle. With tig you can weld really well with little or no movement of the tungsten. Here are a couple pics of some of my old ones with stainless steel. As you can see it gets a rainbow color when you weld on it. If it turns black, and sugary that means you could the chemicals, and chromium right out of the metal wich make it stainless. Hence why you have to be so careful.



Keep in mind those are old, and i have been welding for a lot longer now LOL!

 

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Also I didn't think they you would hold the torch that other way so I must've read it wrong. Don't know if they go hand in hand but my gas welds look professional from what i've seen around the site and other sites so maybe I just have to get a good pase down.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If your instructor told you to hold the torch like that he shouldn't be teaching a class that has anything to do with welding.

 

ask your teacher to do a demo pass for you and watch how they do it....just my suggestion..

 

Just as a random link, there's a bunch of handy stuff on the miller website. (click on 'education' then browse all the stuff...)
For anyone who was confused by the angle/torch movement stuff or whatever pictures!!
http://www.millerwelds.com/pdf/gtawbook.pdf

Am I the only one on HT that welds with a Lincoln TIG? hahah

 

No exploited has a lincoln tig. The rest of us are just sweet and own Millers

 

LOL! I'm too poor for my tig yet. So i just use the ones at my school all of the time. I use both, and since then i have grown to like the millers. But thats just because i like the miller dynasty 200dx. But we also just got some furaneous machines in, that we haven't hooked up yet. I can't waite!

 

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Thats call burning skin.....ever been to a tanning salon, lol. i like it.

 

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Thats call burning skin.....ever been to a tanning salon, lol. i like it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's called cancer. Wear some gloves!

 

Yeah the first day I was welding for two hrs straight w/ a short sleeve on, noticed how you can get a sun tan from welding lol. I wear a sweatshirt and mechanics gloves now.

 

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It's called cancer. Wear some gloves!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Xelenventybillionandfuckingthree.

 

my teacher told me turn up the heat and go faster

 

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No you tilt it away from your direction of travel. So if you are right handed going right to left you tilt the torch 15 deg to the right and add filler with your left hand as you travel along the piece.

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How do you tilt if your going left to right?

 

How I should, I just read a post wrong.....