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What Program To Use With P28 ECU and B18 ITR

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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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ok i am swaping a jdm b18c type r engine into my civic cx hatch.. i am getting a reprogammed P28 computer for it, but i am not sure what options to pick with the program. i am going to be running the engine completepy stock.. so what would work best for me in my daily driver / casual street racer (nothing serious)

here are the options from katman

Program Stages (choose 1 stage when ordering):

Stage 1 : Close- to-Stock
Stage 1 offers programming that is barely enhanced before and while in VTEC. Perfect for the engine hybrider who's looking for stock fuel & timing maps and to disable their knock sensor.


Stage 2 : Semi-race
Stage 2 programming offers stock fuel + timing maps before VTEC crossover so that fuel consumption is hardly affected, but, once in VTEC the Mugen-variant fuel + timing race maps take over and run the show (uses identical maps from stage 3). Excellent program for the finnicky racer who wants the best of both worlds. Works great for NOS, Turbo, and N/A engine setups.


Stage 3 : Full Race (Anti-Tree Huggin' Environment Killa)
Stage 3 offers the full blown Mugen variant program in its unadulterated form. Dumps more fuel than stage 1 & 2 before VTEC. There might be a noticeable loss in gas mileage. Timing is moderately enhanced but not wild. A VTEC/Fuel controller is highly recommended to fine tune this program on the dyno. The program has shown promising gains of up to 5-7whp once dyno tuned with the aid of a VTEC/Fuel controller. Untuned, gains of about 5whp can be made. Throttle response is noticeably enhanced as well. Works great for NOS, Turbo & N/A engine setups.

VTEC Crossover Point (choose one):

4800, 5300, 5500, 5700, 6000, 6200 RPM

Redline RPM cutoff (choose one):

8500, 8800, 9000, 9200, 9500, 10,000+ RPM

i think i want stage 2 but what do you guys think i should run with the stock itr for the limiter and vtec? i have heard it stops making power at about 8600 but that is all i know.

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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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choose the one thats stock or ask for a P73 ecu.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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umm it comes with a stock p73 ecu but i want to use a reporgrammed p28 so that the ecu is obd1 and the speed limiter and knock sensor are disabled... and to make the swap easier into an obd1 car
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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stock. i've found that preprogrammed ecus are going to run rich as hell no matter what rpm you're at. dyno tune it or stock chip
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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i have a p28 chipped on mah CTR and i kinda smell fumes after awhile and when i start smashin then stop i smell fumes like crazy
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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it says in stage 2 that it uses the same air/fuel ratios as stock until it goes into the vtec... and daily driving i would not go into vtec very often so i think it would be ok.. i have read that if you are using the stock intake on the b18c engine that the vtec should be at about 5300.. sounds a bit high... the engine in my car currently redlines at 5500.. my poor old d15b8... it gets so abused... it is starting to die which has inspired me to actually buy a decent engine for it.. i have always wanted to swap a type r but now i have a reason
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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Bump for more opinions
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