for those of you who run stainless brake lines, what do you do about the non-coated ones to prevent dirt trapped inbetween the braid and teflon from chaffing? Can you use some sort of shrink wrap? Or plasti-dip/plasti-coate? I know that stoptech lines as well as neuspeed lines are coated, but I dont care for the color of the neuspeeds.

Also question about putting ITR brakes on an EG civic. I have an 94 civic ex abs, it has the same brakes as the DC2 integra, 10.4" up front and rear discs. If my understanding is correct, then all I'd need to put ITR calipers and rotors on is:

the ITR caliper carrier/bracket, 98-01 model year
the caliper itself, 98-01 model year
4x100 redrilled ITR rotors (autozone, brembo or whatever), 98-01 model year
ITR pads, I'll likely go carbotech, i have hawk HPS on right now
15" wheels????

Would there be any modification needed to the caliepr bracket or to my knuckle to mount the ITR brakes on? Or is it a bolt-on affair to my knuckle? I can buy loaded, rebuilt 98-01 ITR calipers that come with installation hardware, the caliper bracket, and pads for $50, less than that with my firends discount at kragen.

Thanks in advance. I did search, somethings came up, but nothing specific on what or how to mount ITR brakes on an EG civic that has the 10.4" brakes up front. I was thinking about getting a fastbrakes kit (the SpecR one very similar to doing this), but i feel the OE ITR setup would be more than adequate fro quite a while.


Modified by chrisw85 at 3:45 PM 11/20/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisw85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for those of you who run stainless brake lines, what do you do about the non-coated ones to prevent dirt trapped inbetween the braid and teflon from chaffing? Can you use some sort of shrink wrap? Or plasti-dip/plasti-dip? I know that stoptech lines as well as neuspeed lines are coated, but I dont care for the color of the neuspeeds.

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I've never thought of dipping my brake lines in plastic, or shrink wrapping them for that matter. There is no sure way of keeping dirt from harming them, you just have to inspect them constantly just like everything else.

 

deffinatly dont run the non coated lines on the street. my car had them on it when i bought it, i didnt notice them and the previous owner didnt tell me they werent coated... about 3000 miles later i almost died when a car pulled out in front of me, i slammed on the brakes and the pedal lost pressure and went straight to the floor... i have coated ones now

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">deffinatly dont run the non coated lines on the street. my car had them on it when i bought it, i didnt notice them and the previous owner didnt tell me they werent coated... about 3000 miles later i almost died when a car pulled out in front of me, i slammed on the brakes and the pedal lost pressure and went straight to the floor... i have coated ones now</TD></TR></TABLE>

Coated or not, SS brake lines are wear items and should be replaced every year or two.

 

For mounting the caliper, the caliper bracket will need to be milled a bit where it meets the knuckle. Otherwise, it'll rub on the outside of the rotor, and nothing will fit right. You'll have to play around with it a bit to get the fitment good, but that's what needs to be done. Just exercise caution, as milling too much can create problems, though ultimately that could be fixed with some kind of spacer.

Also, I'm not positive that Civic knuckle/spindle will work. I know the rotor diameter is the same, but I believe the bolt pattern is different for the caliper bracket. It may be the case that you have to buy Integra spindles. For pad choice, the Hawk HPS really blows. You'll definitely want something better, and if you're using this on the track like we all hope, you'll flat out NEED something better. I faded a set of of Hawk HP+ (a step up from the HPS) in a single session on track. That's just awful.

For the lines, I've been lucky and have used non-coated ones without any problems on the street for two years. I do inspect them regularly, and have had no sign of wear to this point. The coated ones would decrease chance of wear and debris getting in there though, so they wouldn't be a bad idea. Ignore the color if necessary, as function &gt; form, and no one will be looking at your brake lines anyway

 

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They'll only work if they are the ABS spindles.

For lines - I have stoptech lines on my car, I'm pretty happy with their fitment/finish. Not that cheap, but brakes are kind of important

 

The 94 civic ex abs coupe does have the abs spindles up front, so they are the same as DC2 spindles.

So i could just take a file or bench grinder and mill a bit off the bracket, then just mount it up? Doesn't sound too difficult. Are we talking about 1mm or so?

 

i had the nuespeed coated ones, after 3 months or so the coating was riped up and the lines were all exposed, second time around i just went with the non-coated lines

 

If you decide to go with coated, stay away from these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

I had them for 2 races before they melted and blew. Could have been bad if I hadn't seen the fluid coming from them.

 

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What were they rubbing on?

 

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They'll only work if they are the ABS spindles.

For lines - I have stoptech lines on my car, I'm pretty happy with their fitment/finish. Not that cheap, but brakes are kind of important </TD></TR></TABLE>

yep and I use the same lines as well.. coated.. and aside from their crappy replacement banjo bolts, they are great products.. will probably wait until next year to replace since the car didn't see a lot of driving time this year..

 

diy brakeline coating writeup i did.
http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125089

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisw85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for those of you who run stainless brake lines, what do you do about the non-coated ones to prevent dirt trapped inbetween the braid and teflon from chaffing?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Non-coated lines (all 6) have been used on my 242TI for the past ~204,000 miles with no issues at all.

and yes it has been on track.

:shrugg:

 

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http://www.g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125089 </TD></TR></TABLE>

not bad, just sucks when you have lines that have the brackets on it, althught thats what zipties are for.

 

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What were they rubbing on?</TD></TR></TABLE>

nothing, i guess a better word would be, cracked, not ripped. I really don't think they are worth the money.

 

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not bad, just sucks when you have lines that have the brackets on it, althught thats what zipties are for.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks, yeah i went through a couple cutting discs with a dremel taking off my brackets. them bitches are pretty thick

 

Ok so another question, what brake lines to get?
Russel
Earls
Goodridge
Technafit (they also sell the clutch line for ~$20)
Neuspeed
Stoptech

I'm leaning towards the Technafit, but I remember reading about how one type of crimp end are superior to others; I think earls claims this over russell or is it viceversa?

 

Way back from the dead... but searched and found my exact question at the end of this thread.

Input? Opinions? Fit and finish? Longevity?

 

I can't say how they compare to any of the other ones, but I've been happy with my Goodridge lines for the price. My original set did eventually develop a leak, but it took ~4-5 years for that to show up. Also, the flange bolts or whatever (holding the line to the caliper) were quite a bit weaker than the OEM bolts, and I managed to break two of them during the install. That very well could've been my fault, but I remember them breaking with not much torque placed on them.

 

I wouldn't use a file because you want it to be as smooth and flat as possible. You must remove 0.09" of material or about 2.3mm. Another alternative is to call the good guys at fast brakes, they will sell you the bracket already machined. Thats what I did and it makes for a perfect bolt up swap.

Here's what the bracket should look like.




Crap, didn't realize this thread was ancient.

 

Great pic, thanks cdn!

 

I've had that setup on my car since about 98... good stuff.

I resurrected this thread more to hear people's opinions on brake lines... guess I should have clarified that a little more haha

 

I'm running the technafit lines for a 99-00si on my 98ex. I'm using ITR calipers up front. The technafits have a coating and also a thick rubber boot at the connectors. Had them for about 18 months or so. Boots on my front lines have all cracked/ripped, but the line seems to be fine. No sign of leaks or anything. I'll probably buy a different brand next time.

 

What other brands are you lookin at? I've been leaning toward techna fit myself.

 

Keep in mind guys that just because a line is covered in some kind of protective coating doesn't mean it's safe.

Exhibit A: This is a line I've run for the past few years, I honestly can't remember which kind it was. But it snapped as I was braking while going through the drive through at mcdonalds. It wasn't the outter covering that failed, it was the inner line. There was a pinhole puncture that then ruptured.