Ride Height w/ GC Upper Mounts
In my 96 Integra I'm going to be running OTS Konis and GCs w/ 8" x 450lb in front and 7" x 550lb in rear. I'd like to run the GC upper mounts in front, but I've seen some posts in the archives indicating problems setting ride height.
With those springs, the fork mod, and OTS Konis, do you think I'll have trouble setting ride height to approximately this level: http://chassisinnovations.com/...6.jpg (That's my car with Konis and 400/450s, but NO, I do not drive canyons
). Will I have to compress the springs to raise the perch high enough? I definitely don't want the car slammed...
For now the car is still being used as my daily driver and for HPDE.
Modified by ChassisInnovations at 2:57 PM 11/20/2005
Modified by ChassisInnovations at 4:39 PM 11/20/2005
With those springs, the fork mod, and OTS Konis, do you think I'll have trouble setting ride height to approximately this level: http://chassisinnovations.com/...6.jpg (That's my car with Konis and 400/450s, but NO, I do not drive canyons
). Will I have to compress the springs to raise the perch high enough? I definitely don't want the car slammed...For now the car is still being used as my daily driver and for HPDE.
Modified by ChassisInnovations at 2:57 PM 11/20/2005
Modified by ChassisInnovations at 4:39 PM 11/20/2005
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChassisInnovations »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In my 96 Integra I'm going to be running OTS Konis and GCs w/ 8" x 450lb in front and 7" x 550lb in rear. I'd like to run the GC upper mounts in front, but I've seen some posts in the archives indicating problems setting ride height.
With those springs, the fork mod, and OTS Konis, do you think I'll have trouble setting ride height to approximately this level: http://chassisinnovations.com/...6.jpg (and NO, I do not drive canyons
). Will I have to compress the springs to raise the perch high enough? I definitely don't want the car slammed...
For now the car is still being used as my daily driver and for HPDE.
Modified by ChassisInnovations at 2:57 PM 11/20/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>
My daily driver / auto-x / hpde 00 gsr is running 400/400 springs on OTS Koni Yellows, and GC upper mounts in the front, so a very similar situation to you.
With the perch set to just put the front springs into a very light preload, my wheels are flush with the fenders, which I believe is around a 2.25" drop. Thats also without pushing the shock further into the fork than normal, so if you did that as well, you'd be even lower.
That picture looks very close to my ride height. If you need to get a little more clearance, it shouldn't hurt anything to preload the springs a bit to get to the desired ride height. And if that isn't good enough, then use the factory upper mounts, since you wouldn't be low enough to have to worry about bottoming out anyway. My goal was to be as low as reasonable to drive around town, since I'd like the benefits of a low CG for auto-x, but not so low that it interfered with getting to work in the morning. At a similar height you what you posted, the only issue I've had is scraping on parking stops, otherwise no worries.
Also, just to mention, if you have the same front strut bar that my gsr came with, you will have to modify it to work with the GC upper mounts. Some of the curved triangulation section at the ends needs to be removed for clearance.
With those springs, the fork mod, and OTS Konis, do you think I'll have trouble setting ride height to approximately this level: http://chassisinnovations.com/...6.jpg (and NO, I do not drive canyons
). Will I have to compress the springs to raise the perch high enough? I definitely don't want the car slammed...For now the car is still being used as my daily driver and for HPDE.
Modified by ChassisInnovations at 2:57 PM 11/20/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>
My daily driver / auto-x / hpde 00 gsr is running 400/400 springs on OTS Koni Yellows, and GC upper mounts in the front, so a very similar situation to you.
With the perch set to just put the front springs into a very light preload, my wheels are flush with the fenders, which I believe is around a 2.25" drop. Thats also without pushing the shock further into the fork than normal, so if you did that as well, you'd be even lower.
That picture looks very close to my ride height. If you need to get a little more clearance, it shouldn't hurt anything to preload the springs a bit to get to the desired ride height. And if that isn't good enough, then use the factory upper mounts, since you wouldn't be low enough to have to worry about bottoming out anyway. My goal was to be as low as reasonable to drive around town, since I'd like the benefits of a low CG for auto-x, but not so low that it interfered with getting to work in the morning. At a similar height you what you posted, the only issue I've had is scraping on parking stops, otherwise no worries.
Also, just to mention, if you have the same front strut bar that my gsr came with, you will have to modify it to work with the GC upper mounts. Some of the curved triangulation section at the ends needs to be removed for clearance.
Theres plenty of adjustment on the GC sleeves. On mine I had it set up to where the front and rear springs 8" and 7" rear length, were almost preloaded, just for the initial install. On the stock circlip spot the car was much higher than stock by at least an inch.
if you are using the gc upper mounts you do not need to perform the fork mod as well. either/or, not both. you also probably won't need to preload the spring any. the threads you are referring to were using the RACE koni's that are already shortened 1" and have a longer droop stop. total extended length of the shock is close to 1.5" shorter. with the gc upper mount you MIGHT need to preload the spring 1/4" or so. not enough that you should worry about it.
nate
nate
I was wondering whether the fork mod would also be necessary, so thanks for clearing that up. Another question, should I cut the bump stops that GC sends with the mounts, and if so, how much?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solo-x »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with the gc upper mount you MIGHT need to preload the spring 1/4" or so. not enough that you should worry about it.
nate</TD></TR></TABLE>
Speaking of preloading the springs, do you need a spring compressor, or can you accomplish it with a spanner wrench on the collar? I would think that you could easily provide enough torque with a spanner wrench to do the deed, but I'm wondering if the sleeve would just spin around the shock with the collar, negating any height change. Anyone been there, done that?
Sorry, I don't mean to hijack the thread....
nate</TD></TR></TABLE>
Speaking of preloading the springs, do you need a spring compressor, or can you accomplish it with a spanner wrench on the collar? I would think that you could easily provide enough torque with a spanner wrench to do the deed, but I'm wondering if the sleeve would just spin around the shock with the collar, negating any height change. Anyone been there, done that?
Sorry, I don't mean to hijack the thread....
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