Discussion of Forum Changes
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Discussion of Forum Changes
This discussion arose in another topic. Folks would like to consider changes to the rules, policies, etc of this forum. Let's try to confine our comments here to the discussion of those changes.
For now, we can try discussing all of these suggestions within this single topic. If we find that we need to break the discussion out into more than one topic (different suggestions in each), then we can do that.
Starting with the summary:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So far I have a few main topics that no one should suprised at all about.
This covers 99% of what was mentioned.
1. Searching
- what is appropriate response to common threads?
- complaints of 'do a search' and 'search, noob' and to be more helpful
- (I'm adding this) Appropriate named threads to help people search, and so we can add good stuff to the FAQ.
2. Stickies
- FAQ
- WTB/FS (IF we have a thread as a catch-all instead of individual threads)
- Guidelines/RULES
- No Regional Events stickies
- Keep the total number smaller
3. Flaming/Ettiquite
4. ITR Spotting/Sighting Threads - No More?
5. Report to mod (for us to USE it more often, highlight this in rules?)
- inappropriate posts
- misplaced threads
- lock threads that are out of hand
- to change thread title (for searching, and to make sense)
- etc
7. Ebay/Autotrader/Craigslist - None Allowed?
8. FS/WTB threads - yes or no? link only to classifieds? None at all? A thread for all of them? Or only in sigs? how about no posting anything other than a FS/WTB in one thread? no comments, contact by pm/email?
9. Make the FAQ more visible/noticeable somehow?
10. Off Topic
- OT in front of thread title required
11. Rules
- list them somewhere prominent, like the FAQ.
- decide on rules!
10 is a touchy subject. long time members asking the group about new cars or catching up, joking around, etc, well... thats always been part of this forum. how do we define what is ok? (not sure...) Get togethers are obviously ok, but to some of us, this is the only forum we go into and we all want some leeway since a lot of us know each other well and this forum in particular has a different feel than most other forums here.
Anyways. I'm not sure if this is what we wanted, but its a start. It's simple and I tried to put none of my personal opinions in up there.
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If we find additional suggestions that are not on this list, I can edit this post to add them.
For now, we can try discussing all of these suggestions within this single topic. If we find that we need to break the discussion out into more than one topic (different suggestions in each), then we can do that.
Starting with the summary:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So far I have a few main topics that no one should suprised at all about.
This covers 99% of what was mentioned.
1. Searching
- what is appropriate response to common threads?
- complaints of 'do a search' and 'search, noob' and to be more helpful
- (I'm adding this) Appropriate named threads to help people search, and so we can add good stuff to the FAQ.
2. Stickies
- FAQ
- WTB/FS (IF we have a thread as a catch-all instead of individual threads)
- Guidelines/RULES
- No Regional Events stickies
- Keep the total number smaller
3. Flaming/Ettiquite
4. ITR Spotting/Sighting Threads - No More?
5. Report to mod (for us to USE it more often, highlight this in rules?)
- inappropriate posts
- misplaced threads
- lock threads that are out of hand
- to change thread title (for searching, and to make sense)
- etc
7. Ebay/Autotrader/Craigslist - None Allowed?
8. FS/WTB threads - yes or no? link only to classifieds? None at all? A thread for all of them? Or only in sigs? how about no posting anything other than a FS/WTB in one thread? no comments, contact by pm/email?
9. Make the FAQ more visible/noticeable somehow?
10. Off Topic
- OT in front of thread title required
11. Rules
- list them somewhere prominent, like the FAQ.
- decide on rules!
10 is a touchy subject. long time members asking the group about new cars or catching up, joking around, etc, well... thats always been part of this forum. how do we define what is ok? (not sure...) Get togethers are obviously ok, but to some of us, this is the only forum we go into and we all want some leeway since a lot of us know each other well and this forum in particular has a different feel than most other forums here.
Anyways. I'm not sure if this is what we wanted, but its a start. It's simple and I tried to put none of my personal opinions in up there.
</TD></TR></TABLE>If we find additional suggestions that are not on this list, I can edit this post to add them.
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Re: Discussion of Forum Changes (nsxtasy)
I would like to suggest that #2 is now a non-issue, and we can take it off the list IMO. The regional events have been removed, and the total number of stickies is now smaller. We may add one for rules (suggestion #11) but that's it.
I don't think there's anything we need to do regarding item #2 on our list.
I don't think there's anything we need to do regarding item #2 on our list.
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Re: Discussion of Forum Changes (nsxtasy)
My personal order of importance might be something like numbers 3, 1, 4 and probably 7 (in that order).
With respect to number 10, it reminded me of something I was going to post in the earlier thread about how quickly the ITR forum used to move a couple years back. Hmmmm ....
P.S. Please add "pic request" threads near the top of the above list.
With respect to number 10, it reminded me of something I was going to post in the earlier thread about how quickly the ITR forum used to move a couple years back. Hmmmm ....
P.S. Please add "pic request" threads near the top of the above list.
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Re: Discussion of Forum Changes (zygspeed)
i think you guys need to realize this is a web site for not just discussing technical related issues about our cars, but also a site where we share a similar interest and have fun doing so.
i think that people need to flame less and help the noobies out a little more. The old timers dont make this place any better when they attack the noobies right off the bat for asking legit questions.
And although enforcement of rules is needed, the mods often take their duties too far. Taking points away for posting in the wrong forum on accident, when we cant delete it ourselves and such, should be a simple warning, not a deduction of points.
ITR sightings and what not can sometimes sound shady, but most of the time it is just someone who saw another R and got excited. It's a rare car, it happens.
the FS/WTB thread that is stickied isnt very useful because its like an old thread that never dies. Hard to view, hard to know whats updated and whats not.
People should either use the Classified section that is provided, put "for sale" links in their sig or we should make the FS/WTB thread a whole seperate forum. So it's easy to view like the classified section, just specified for the type R.
As long as it isnt out of hand or pointless, Ebay links and such can sometimes be a nice thing.
response to noobs asking dumb questions should be something like this...
"please search about your question first and if you still cant find the answer, then come ask us" or something a little nicer than "expletive off noob, search!"
i cant say i havent ever told a noob to GTFO! but sometimes this is appropriate
just my .02
but overall, people need to chill the expletive out, its only a chat forum, about cars (vehicles used for transportation and fun)
no reason to flip out or go crazy over people asking dumb questions, it doesnt directly affect your life or ruin your day, you will never be able to filter out peoples stupidity, it will always exist...deal with it
i think that people need to flame less and help the noobies out a little more. The old timers dont make this place any better when they attack the noobies right off the bat for asking legit questions.
And although enforcement of rules is needed, the mods often take their duties too far. Taking points away for posting in the wrong forum on accident, when we cant delete it ourselves and such, should be a simple warning, not a deduction of points.
ITR sightings and what not can sometimes sound shady, but most of the time it is just someone who saw another R and got excited. It's a rare car, it happens.
the FS/WTB thread that is stickied isnt very useful because its like an old thread that never dies. Hard to view, hard to know whats updated and whats not.
People should either use the Classified section that is provided, put "for sale" links in their sig or we should make the FS/WTB thread a whole seperate forum. So it's easy to view like the classified section, just specified for the type R.
As long as it isnt out of hand or pointless, Ebay links and such can sometimes be a nice thing.
response to noobs asking dumb questions should be something like this...
"please search about your question first and if you still cant find the answer, then come ask us" or something a little nicer than "expletive off noob, search!"
i cant say i havent ever told a noob to GTFO! but sometimes this is appropriate
just my .02
but overall, people need to chill the expletive out, its only a chat forum, about cars (vehicles used for transportation and fun)
no reason to flip out or go crazy over people asking dumb questions, it doesnt directly affect your life or ruin your day, you will never be able to filter out peoples stupidity, it will always exist...deal with it
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Re: Discussion of Forum Changes (nsxtasy)
The For Sale and WTB posting haven't changed much since we added the sticky at the top of the forum that everyone said would be so useful and helpful. People still post For sale and WTB without looking. I'm for removing it altogether and directing anyone with a for sale and wtb to the classifieds and or just having a link in your sig to your classifieds post.
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Re: Discussion of Forum Changes (1GreyTeg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I'm for removing it altogether and directing anyone with a for sale and wtb to the classifieds and or just having a link in your sig to your classifieds post.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ahhh! Sounds sensible enough to me.
I didn't think the video stickie was a very good idea either.
Same with pic request posts, not to mention the new car intros (not that there's anything wrong with that).
Ahhh! Sounds sensible enough to me.
I didn't think the video stickie was a very good idea either.
Same with pic request posts, not to mention the new car intros (not that there's anything wrong with that).
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Re: Discussion of Forum Changes (nsxtasy)
I usually don't reply to threads like these but more or less sit back and watch everybody bitch at each other.
This time I feel like giving my 2 cents on the situation.
I guess what I understand what is really the point of everybody bitching? Everybody’s got to understand that this is a forum for Integra Type R’s. Meaning this is a forum for cars with an audience that I would call immature. I’m sure people are going to offended by being called immature and are going to yell back and bitch and call me names.
But by doing this you are showing your maturity “meaning lack there of”.
Until the entire age of type of R community is in there 40’s this forum is always going to be like it is. People will always flame, people will always post stupid topics, people will always not follow the rules.
That’s just how it is.
But I don’t understand how people can’t deal with the forum as it is now. I guess I don’t see any issues with it. I feel its pretty obvious which topics are relevant and which ones aren’t. I just click on the topics I feel are relevant.
This time I feel like giving my 2 cents on the situation.
I guess what I understand what is really the point of everybody bitching? Everybody’s got to understand that this is a forum for Integra Type R’s. Meaning this is a forum for cars with an audience that I would call immature. I’m sure people are going to offended by being called immature and are going to yell back and bitch and call me names.
But by doing this you are showing your maturity “meaning lack there of”.
Until the entire age of type of R community is in there 40’s this forum is always going to be like it is. People will always flame, people will always post stupid topics, people will always not follow the rules.
That’s just how it is.
But I don’t understand how people can’t deal with the forum as it is now. I guess I don’t see any issues with it. I feel its pretty obvious which topics are relevant and which ones aren’t. I just click on the topics I feel are relevant.
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Re: Discussion of Forum Changes (1GreyTeg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Azcheron »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think that people need to flame less and help the noobies out a little more.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's a nice thought. But I think the question for us in this discussion is, what should we do about it? More specifically, should we have rule(s) that say so? If we have a set of rules, then we can consider including a rule that says something like "don't flame" and "be nice to n00bs", in more detail, with specific examples of what to reply and what not to reply. The alternative is not to do anything. (What I mean is, even though we can say people should try to be nicer, if we don't establish any rules, we'll probably just forget about it and continue to argue every time someone posts something n00bish and/or isn't nice in response.)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The For Sale and WTB posting haven't changed much since we added the sticky at the top of the forum that everyone said would be so useful and helpful. People still post For sale and WTB without looking. I'm for removing it altogether and directing anyone with a for sale and wtb to the classifieds and or just having a link in your sig to your classifieds post.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't think that's a great solution, because it basically means that any FS/WTB item specific to the ITR is going to get lost in the Classifieds, with no visibility whatsoever to ITR folks who are looking to buy or sell. I would prefer to either:
a) continue our unstated policy (may make it more explicit as part of "rules") that you should post a complete description etc in the classifieds forum, and what you post here in the ITR forum as an individual topic is only a link to the topic in classifieds, or
b) change our policy to say that there will be NO individual topics of FS/WTB items in this forum, that they should be posted in the classifieds forum, but allow links to the classifieds topics in the single FS/WTB topic that is stickied at the top of this forum.
Do it one way or the other, not both, and enforce it. If we decide on alternative (b) as our rule, using the single, stickied FS/WTB topic, then any individual topics of FS/WTB items in this forum should be deleted by the mods. If we decide on alternative (a) as our rule, then get rid of the single, stickied FS/WTB topic.
That's my O.
That's a nice thought. But I think the question for us in this discussion is, what should we do about it? More specifically, should we have rule(s) that say so? If we have a set of rules, then we can consider including a rule that says something like "don't flame" and "be nice to n00bs", in more detail, with specific examples of what to reply and what not to reply. The alternative is not to do anything. (What I mean is, even though we can say people should try to be nicer, if we don't establish any rules, we'll probably just forget about it and continue to argue every time someone posts something n00bish and/or isn't nice in response.)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The For Sale and WTB posting haven't changed much since we added the sticky at the top of the forum that everyone said would be so useful and helpful. People still post For sale and WTB without looking. I'm for removing it altogether and directing anyone with a for sale and wtb to the classifieds and or just having a link in your sig to your classifieds post.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't think that's a great solution, because it basically means that any FS/WTB item specific to the ITR is going to get lost in the Classifieds, with no visibility whatsoever to ITR folks who are looking to buy or sell. I would prefer to either:
a) continue our unstated policy (may make it more explicit as part of "rules") that you should post a complete description etc in the classifieds forum, and what you post here in the ITR forum as an individual topic is only a link to the topic in classifieds, or
b) change our policy to say that there will be NO individual topics of FS/WTB items in this forum, that they should be posted in the classifieds forum, but allow links to the classifieds topics in the single FS/WTB topic that is stickied at the top of this forum.
Do it one way or the other, not both, and enforce it. If we decide on alternative (b) as our rule, using the single, stickied FS/WTB topic, then any individual topics of FS/WTB items in this forum should be deleted by the mods. If we decide on alternative (a) as our rule, then get rid of the single, stickied FS/WTB topic.
That's my O.
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Re: Discussion of Forum Changes (citrus3000psi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by citrus3000psi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I usually don't reply to threads like these but more or less sit back and watch everybody bitch at each other.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This topic is NOT for bitching. Please feel free to comment on how and why you would or wouldn't prefer to change specific policies regarding the way this forum is moderated. Please don't hijack this topic to bitch. Feel free to bitch in that other topic (see my first topic for the link) rather than here. Thank you.
This topic is NOT for bitching. Please feel free to comment on how and why you would or wouldn't prefer to change specific policies regarding the way this forum is moderated. Please don't hijack this topic to bitch. Feel free to bitch in that other topic (see my first topic for the link) rather than here. Thank you.
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Re: Discussion of Forum Changes (nsxtasy)
I'm just stopping in to say that hopefully some good will come of this, but my part is done (compiling the list).
My blood boils when people comment that its just a bitch session or that somehow, not all of us 'belong' in this forum for one reason or another. Rather than appear hypocritial since I know I'm not seen as the good samaritan around here, I'll just exit myself from the discussion. Plus I've written everything I can think of on the subject in the other thread and in the past.
If anyone wants some help writing up/editing/organizing the final product, whatever that may be, I'd be glad to assist.
My blood boils when people comment that its just a bitch session or that somehow, not all of us 'belong' in this forum for one reason or another. Rather than appear hypocritial since I know I'm not seen as the good samaritan around here, I'll just exit myself from the discussion. Plus I've written everything I can think of on the subject in the other thread and in the past.
If anyone wants some help writing up/editing/organizing the final product, whatever that may be, I'd be glad to assist.
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Regarding flaming and noob's: I think that if a situation arises that does necessitate the "swift justice" of the ITR forum then only one person should apply the justice and then the thread should die. If everyone keeps flaming (and bumping) the useless threads then they stay at the top of the forum for entirely too long and contribute to forum pollution. The easiest way to control ignorant threads is to not feed them.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I think that if a situation arises that does necessitate the "swift justice" of the ITR forum then only one person should apply the justice and then the thread should die. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The apparent problem is that this doesn't happen fast enough even if ....
The apparent problem is that this doesn't happen fast enough even if ....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Regarding flaming and noob's: I think that if a situation arises that does necessitate the "swift justice" of the ITR forum then only one person should apply the justice and then the thread should die. If everyone keeps flaming (and bumping) the useless threads then they stay at the top of the forum for entirely too long and contribute to forum pollution. The easiest way to control ignorant threads is to not feed them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Isn't this just a description of what happens when a moderator locks a topic?
Isn't this just a description of what happens when a moderator locks a topic?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Isn't this just a description of what happens when a moderator locks a topic?
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yes, but that's not what he's getting at
Isn't this just a description of what happens when a moderator locks a topic?
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yes, but that's not what he's getting at
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Re: (Azcheron)
About the "FOR SALE and BUY" section
i think there is a solution for this, but it goes beyond the Type R forum.
instead of having a general Classified section
there should be this:
Classifieds
-Cars For Sale/trade/wanted
-Parts (Sell/Trade/Buy)
----DC2R
----DC2
----EG6
----EM1
----DC5
----General
----etc etc etc...
each car type would have its OWN forum for parts just for that car type
if its not for one type, then you either choose where you want it or put it under "general"
what you think? i think it would make searching for parts and posting this for sale a expletive load easier
you want type R parts, look under type R...
i think there is a solution for this, but it goes beyond the Type R forum.
instead of having a general Classified section
there should be this:
Classifieds
-Cars For Sale/trade/wanted
-Parts (Sell/Trade/Buy)
----DC2R
----DC2
----EG6
----EM1
----DC5
----General
----etc etc etc...
each car type would have its OWN forum for parts just for that car type
if its not for one type, then you either choose where you want it or put it under "general"
what you think? i think it would make searching for parts and posting this for sale a expletive load easier
you want type R parts, look under type R...
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The one thing that I see that can easily be changed is a simple change in the layout. As I've said in other posts, I feel that the stickied threads, specifically the FAQ thread should be highlighted in a color that is obvious.
Really light grey, and light grey side by side isn't much of a difference. Regular threads in light grey...stickied threads in red, or blue, or dark grey for that matter.
Perhaps this would lead to a little more traffic going to the FAQ page first rather than jumping in and posting.
Also, maybe like an "I have read the FAQ page before posting" check box when a user goes to post a thread.
Really light grey, and light grey side by side isn't much of a difference. Regular threads in light grey...stickied threads in red, or blue, or dark grey for that matter.
Perhaps this would lead to a little more traffic going to the FAQ page first rather than jumping in and posting.
Also, maybe like an "I have read the FAQ page before posting" check box when a user goes to post a thread.
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Re: (1GreyTeg)
Thought I'd bring this back up since people keep coming in the R forum to post **** that is completely irrelivent to the Type-R. Examples: Asking questions about cars that are not R related. Asking questions about hybrids aht are not R related. F/S threads that are not R related...
Can we get the stickied FAQ/FORUM RULE threads highlighted in a different color that is clearly visible? I don't think that is too much to ask?
I'm sure I sound a little butthurt right now, but it's ******* irritating.
Can we get the stickied FAQ/FORUM RULE threads highlighted in a different color that is clearly visible? I don't think that is too much to ask?
I'm sure I sound a little butthurt right now, but it's ******* irritating.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Haleiwa-Brando »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thought I'd bring this back up</TD></TR></TABLE>
FWIW, I've been planning to come back to this topic and start moving the discussion on each of the items forward, so that we can decide on any specific actions that we'd like taken. However, I was waiting for the end of the holiday weekend, because I know a lot of folks are out of town and/or not working for the holidays (a lot of us only post from work). So I figured I'd resurrect it on Monday.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Haleiwa-Brando »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can we get the stickied FAQ/FORUM RULE threads highlighted in a different color that is clearly visible?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Regarding making a more noticeable color for the stickied topics, I haven't heard anyone object, so I assume that's something that we ought to be able to move forward on. FWIW I think that's a good idea for all the forums. Maybe Reid can bring it up in the mods' forum. Reid?
FWIW, I've been planning to come back to this topic and start moving the discussion on each of the items forward, so that we can decide on any specific actions that we'd like taken. However, I was waiting for the end of the holiday weekend, because I know a lot of folks are out of town and/or not working for the holidays (a lot of us only post from work). So I figured I'd resurrect it on Monday.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Haleiwa-Brando »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can we get the stickied FAQ/FORUM RULE threads highlighted in a different color that is clearly visible?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Regarding making a more noticeable color for the stickied topics, I haven't heard anyone object, so I assume that's something that we ought to be able to move forward on. FWIW I think that's a good idea for all the forums. Maybe Reid can bring it up in the mods' forum. Reid?
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I'm not going to say much because some people don't like me in here.
But what I will say is lay TF off.
I posted pictures of my CRV steelies over my brakes in a thread about CRV wheels. More than one of you reported that post because it wasn't ITR related.
CTR brakes are the same as ITR brakes. CRV steelies are CRV steelies. God forbid the pic I posted actually helped someone figure something out.
I think the best thing for this forum would be for someone to volunteer and make a video of an ITR out on track (kind of like the Euro ITR vid, you know, the red ITR blitzing through the country side, but the vid would be on track, not the street). For the people that actually watch it, maybe that will help them get what the ITR is all about, so they won't make stupid posts. If I say a vid like that when I first came in here, I wouldn't have made a thread asking how to build a 300whp N/A daily driven ITR. I would have looked into the car more first, but I'm a logical thinker so that might not apply to all people.
But what I will say is lay TF off.
I posted pictures of my CRV steelies over my brakes in a thread about CRV wheels. More than one of you reported that post because it wasn't ITR related.
CTR brakes are the same as ITR brakes. CRV steelies are CRV steelies. God forbid the pic I posted actually helped someone figure something out.
I think the best thing for this forum would be for someone to volunteer and make a video of an ITR out on track (kind of like the Euro ITR vid, you know, the red ITR blitzing through the country side, but the vid would be on track, not the street). For the people that actually watch it, maybe that will help them get what the ITR is all about, so they won't make stupid posts. If I say a vid like that when I first came in here, I wouldn't have made a thread asking how to build a 300whp N/A daily driven ITR. I would have looked into the car more first, but I'm a logical thinker so that might not apply to all people.
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The OT threads in this forum need to be regulated. I dont give a **** if bbasso himself makes a OT post, it doesnt belong here.
That factory race car thread was cleary OT, and I got bitched at for stating so. You people need to decide what the hell is going on and stop being so hypocritical. That **** needs to be in the RR/AX forum.
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, people who have a billion posts here have so much pull around here that it ***** up any type of rules that are enstated. They will bend the rules somehow and turn around and bitch at a noob for bending the same rules.
:thumbsdown: to hypocrits
That factory race car thread was cleary OT, and I got bitched at for stating so. You people need to decide what the hell is going on and stop being so hypocritical. That **** needs to be in the RR/AX forum.
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, people who have a billion posts here have so much pull around here that it ***** up any type of rules that are enstated. They will bend the rules somehow and turn around and bitch at a noob for bending the same rules.
:thumbsdown: to hypocrits
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Re: (Azcheron)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Azcheron »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">About the "FOR SALE and BUY" section
i think there is a solution for this, but it goes beyond the Type R forum.
instead of having a general Classified section
there should be this:
Classifieds
-Cars For Sale/trade/wanted
-Parts (Sell/Trade/Buy)
----DC2R
----DC2
----EG6
----EM1
----DC5
----General
----etc etc etc...
each car type would have its OWN forum for parts just for that car type
if its not for one type, then you either choose where you want it or put it under "general"
what you think? i think it would make searching for parts and posting this for sale a expletive load easier
you want type R parts, look under type R...</TD></TR></TABLE> in theory, i can see your thinking on this idea. however, following such an approach in my opinion would cause too much confusion and a convoluted means of buying and selling. take for example some parts that even though are considered "itr specifc", are still parts that cross pollinate and can be used by other model hondas. that means you now, as a buyer or seller, must hit 2, 3 or even all the rest of the classified forums just to increase the visibilty. sure, you can hit the "general" section of the classifieds, but would you not think that whatever it is you are looking for or might be selling could potentially have even more luck in another section? personally i would. this notion would then cause me to navigate thru the site even more actively then i would if it was all in one convenient pile...and that in turn would mean extra time and effort spent (or lost, depending on how you read it).
if i was selling something like recaros and by posting it only in the itr classifieds, i've already narrowed my audience base by a huge margin. how do i know if an eg owner or a dc5 owner would not have bought it because he was stuck only in the eg or dc5 section? so in theory, there are some problematic results i feel if we decide to go this route. i havent even mentioned what would happen if a seller had like 100 different items from all kinds of hondas for sale...what then? can you imagine the time needed to invest in creating the ads, answering the different threads and loading pics? not to mention the increase use of bandwith space...
although i admire this idea, i feel that the current way the classifieds is already set-up is still the most effective way of reaching an audience in the most efficient manner...problems and all
every single forum i believe takes a life of its own. it is it's own animal. it will bend and turn according to what is new and current, past and present. but most importantly reflect the majority of it's loyal members. of course like any "community", there will be some managing needed to keep the "peace", but eventually things work themselves out for the better as the bad eventually is strained out. how do you harness a constantly moving and changing animal like the itr forum for example? its hard imho. not without some cooperation and patience from the "community"
i think there is a solution for this, but it goes beyond the Type R forum.
instead of having a general Classified section
there should be this:
Classifieds
-Cars For Sale/trade/wanted
-Parts (Sell/Trade/Buy)
----DC2R
----DC2
----EG6
----EM1
----DC5
----General
----etc etc etc...
each car type would have its OWN forum for parts just for that car type
if its not for one type, then you either choose where you want it or put it under "general"
what you think? i think it would make searching for parts and posting this for sale a expletive load easier
you want type R parts, look under type R...</TD></TR></TABLE> in theory, i can see your thinking on this idea. however, following such an approach in my opinion would cause too much confusion and a convoluted means of buying and selling. take for example some parts that even though are considered "itr specifc", are still parts that cross pollinate and can be used by other model hondas. that means you now, as a buyer or seller, must hit 2, 3 or even all the rest of the classified forums just to increase the visibilty. sure, you can hit the "general" section of the classifieds, but would you not think that whatever it is you are looking for or might be selling could potentially have even more luck in another section? personally i would. this notion would then cause me to navigate thru the site even more actively then i would if it was all in one convenient pile...and that in turn would mean extra time and effort spent (or lost, depending on how you read it).
if i was selling something like recaros and by posting it only in the itr classifieds, i've already narrowed my audience base by a huge margin. how do i know if an eg owner or a dc5 owner would not have bought it because he was stuck only in the eg or dc5 section? so in theory, there are some problematic results i feel if we decide to go this route. i havent even mentioned what would happen if a seller had like 100 different items from all kinds of hondas for sale...what then? can you imagine the time needed to invest in creating the ads, answering the different threads and loading pics? not to mention the increase use of bandwith space...
although i admire this idea, i feel that the current way the classifieds is already set-up is still the most effective way of reaching an audience in the most efficient manner...problems and all
every single forum i believe takes a life of its own. it is it's own animal. it will bend and turn according to what is new and current, past and present. but most importantly reflect the majority of it's loyal members. of course like any "community", there will be some managing needed to keep the "peace", but eventually things work themselves out for the better as the bad eventually is strained out. how do you harness a constantly moving and changing animal like the itr forum for example? its hard imho. not without some cooperation and patience from the "community"
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From: Siege Perilous
Re: (RRa_kcaLb)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RRa_kcaLb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That factory race car thread was cleary OT, and I got bitched at for stating so.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If I'd had a single report about it, I would have moved it...but nobody reported it.
If I'd had a single report about it, I would have moved it...but nobody reported it.