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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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My car is being real f*cked these days.. Everytime I go to start in the morning I gotta give it gas or it dies right away... Is this just a bad A/F mixture..?
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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Check engine light? Sounds similar to when my ISC (idle speed control) motor when bad on my talon. I would guess that it's a sensor, not a fuel delivery problem.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by talontsiawd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ISC (idle speed control) motor</TD></TR></TABLE>
I didnt know there was a motor that ran your Idle control...
I was told that the screw near the throttle rotor is your idle positioning control...
You cant really see it in this image, but is that correct.?
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...+BODY
Also, from looking at this image, I see that there are 2 holes throught the gasket between the throttle body and the IM.... I put on a new gasket, and it did not have those holes...could that play some role in my problem..?

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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Juccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I didnt know there was a motor that ran your Idle control...
I was told that the screw near the throttle rotor is your idle positioning control.</TD></TR></TABLE>#9 in that picture is your idle air control valve (IACV), some people call it a motor or whatever. It's probably got some kind of motor inside.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Juccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... I see that there are 2 holes throught the gasket between the throttle body and the IM.... I put on a new gasket, and it did not have those holes...could that play some role in my problem..?</TD></TR></TABLE>Got the wrong gasket? It's gotta have whatever openings are needed for your TB & manifold. Without that opening, your IACV can't do it's job regulating idle.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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OK, well I geuss thats my problem...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Got the wrong gasket?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, I bought one of those stupid *** TB spacers when I first bought my car (worst thing ever) So I decided, after it had been sitting on the ground in the corner of my garage for some 3 years now to put it in...
First off, the screws that came with it wernt long enough to fit... So I said f*ck it, ill use it as a coaster, but my OE gasket was all messed up and whatnot, so I used one of the gaskets provided with this stupid *** spacer... I geuss that was a bad idea too.. Ill replace it tonight..
Ill let you guys know how it goes, hopefully that is my problem.

Thanks JimBlake for clearing all that up for me...
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Juccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I didnt know there was a motor that ran your Idle control...
I was told that the screw near the throttle rotor is your idle positioning control...

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I can't see your picture, broken link or my internet sucks. An ISC motor is the name for it in a DSM. It's basically a stepper motor with a plunger that interfers with airflow at idle, especially when cold, to limit the amount of air and compensate for cold starts and different temperatures. I'm not sure if it is the IAVC, i would assume it's the same thing, just a different name. Can't see the pics though.
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