So the swap was supposed to be finished this past weekend...a few things happened that made it impossible to finish though.
1. Exedy sent me the 26mm clutch rather than the 25mm clutch. I didnt know there was a difference, but the guy at Exedy (who really helped me out by getting it out for next day service) never told me that the integra kit comes in two sizes. The clutch alignment tool says 88 ACURA 88 on it...but the invoice says 93 integra....??? I'm calling them later today.

2. I think (although im not sure) I also recieved the wrong mount kit. The integra cast iron mount thats on the LS engine has two mount bolts that are parallel whith each other like this : the kit i got has a mount for a diagonal mount just like the setup my d16 has...It dosent say so in the instructions...and Im guessing it wouldnt make sense..but do I need to swap the cast iron mount from my d16 to my b18? It would make no sense to me, but thats the only way this kit would work.

3. The guy who was sending me the flywheel, said that FedEx didint come to his work on friday to pick up ANY of the packages from his office...It dosent really matter cause nothing else was working...but I highly doubt FedEx would just skip an office building on a friday...

4. The salvage yard didnt have a distributer. So I went to advance auto ($334)!!! next to auto zone (218)!!! then to checker auto (109) all came with a lifetime warranty...And Ive found that advance auto is about 200-300% higher than most other places Ive bought parts from.

5. When I pulled the plastic cover off of the timing belt, I noticed a whole bunch of melted plastic...Great ..this engine overheated!!! Thats the first thing I thought. But under further inspection we realized that they must have cut out the engine from the enging bay, and in doing so heated the mount thats attached to the engine which in turn melted the plastic, because it melted down alont the timing belt...which means the engine wasnt moving when the plastic melted.

Ill post some pictures after lunch.

I fully condone ordering from the companies I mentioned, Just make sure your really specific with what you need ( I thought I was...).

-Jake

 

Which mount kit are you using?? And I agree with you that swaps never go as planned and there are always little things that go wrong.

 

Thanks for the heads up

 

Im using the HCP B series mount kit, which looks really nice and solid. The instructions are for an EF-18X swap and everything else matches up perfect....youll have to see the pics later

-Jake

 

In regards to the timing belt:
I see a lot of people complaining about the timing belts on the swaps they get, for various reasons, damaged, breaking, etc. Every set of directions I have ever seen has suggested replacing the timing belt before installing an engine, it
s like the clutch, you replace the clutch because eventually it will wear out, and you've already got the motor out of the car, so do the timing belt at the same time.

At that, sorry to hear you are having so much trouble, and good luck with finishing up!

 

damn man, sorry to hear the bad news. Im staying **** with my swap, im not starting on everything until i have every single part together and check everything.

 

Its a good thing I have another car for sure I just got off the phone with the guys at exedy and they are going to resolve the problem...apparently the tranny I got is a jdm tranny which is a 25mm spline...sooo I have to send them the disk + the difference in cost and shipping back.$17... Which is fair because..they did do what I asked them. 1 down 3 to go..

-Jake

 

you have the right mount kit. Just ask around. It sounds like you jumped into this thing and didnt have all the parts lined up and all the tech info either. The instructions for the mount kit are pretty straight forward except for the front crossmember....but get to that when the motor is in.

 

Had the right parts arrived at my door, or arrived at all the swap would be done allready...so I was ready for it...i just got the wrong clutch and no flywheel. Anyway...about the mounts..im thinking I might be missing something off of the integra engine by the mounts here are some pics.

here is the only shot of the engine i have right now

here is a bad drawing


If anyone knows if something is supposed to sit on the two bolts..let me know.
Thanks
-Jake

 

yeah, i know what you are talking about!! what motor is that, by the way looks like a b18a. But the b16a driver side mount is diagnol just like the hcp one. So my suggestion to you is just pull off the motor mount and put on a b16a one, or a newer b18 one..

 

Man I ran into the exact same problem this weekend with my swap, driver side mount wont fit. And don't waste your time pulling the cast iron piece off the old block, because I did. Even though the mount fits onto that piece it doesnt bolt onto the integra block, it is off by just a little bit , and it only has two bolts to the integras three. I'm not sure if we need to drill it out a bit, wich would work, but doesn't sound to good to me, or there is some other piece missing. Just or some background I'm putting a b18c into my 88 crx.


Edit: Also your tranny is most likly not JDM, the 90-91 has a 25mm spline, and 92-93 has the 26mm. I found that out right before I ordered my clutch


[Modified by 1st-hybrid, 5:33 PM 3/11/2002]

 

cool thanks 1st...here are some more pics

this is the integra engine

this is the stock d16 engine



by the way..its a B18b you can tell by...the stamp..which i dont have a picture of and the harness...which dosent work with the 90si setup
-Jake


[Modified by SuperHatch, 5:52 PM 3/11/2002]


[Modified by SuperHatch, 5:55 PM 3/11/2002]

 

You want the engine brackets off a 90-93 Integra. The brackets you have look like the brackets I have which are from a B18B. The 90-93 brackets are the same as the B16 brackets which is what fits the kit's mounts.

Here are some pics (if someone can tell me how to post pics I'll edit them in)-

1995 driver side engine bracket (like yours)- http://www.resnet.wm.edu/~bplesn/95mounts.jpg
1992, same location- http://www.resnet.wm.edu/~bplesn/92mounts.jpg

You can see that the '92 (any Integra 90-93 will work) has the correct offset pattern.

Ben

 

here are the pics
95 mounts

92 mounts


o.k. so heres the thing...the instructions dont say anything about swapping the engine mount. I called R&R performance..(who helped me alot so far and who I would recomend for mounts and linkage.)..but Ron wasnt in so hopefully he'll get back to me later today...

-Jake

 

Lil Zc I hear ya...Ive been folowing your posts..good luck

-Jake

 

Hey superhatch, what year is your b18?? Is it the b18a or the b18b??

 

Its a B18b from a 95LS.

-Jake

 

hybrids most of the time don't go smooth! Just be patient! good luck bro!

 

That would be why the mount doesn't line up. You need one from an early b18 or b16.

 

The engine bracket issue is in the Hasport write up (same design as HCP), give George @ HCP if you want verbal confirmation about the engine brackets. You'll need a new rear bracket and a new driver's side bracket. Just bumps in the road, no big thing.

Ben

 

yeah, you def. need the mount from a b16 or a b18a...i have both motors and both have mounts with offset bolts.....

as far as the swap going smoothly, i know.......i decided this past weekend to put mine in and its going kinda rough, i got the new hasport billet mounts and after we bolted the motor(ls/vtec) in my car(91 crx si) we checked for hood clearance, not even close, we had to shim the motor down a little and now i have a few more bugs to work out.......

 

Strange...your motor must be taller than mine. I've got a B16A1 in the Hasport billet mounts (89 4dr) and the hood is close but shuts, no contact or shimming needed. Probably varies from car to car somewhat...

 

Yep an LS/Vtec motor will be taller due to the combination of a b18 block and b16 head. My b16 cleared fine in my 4dr with the new billet mounts.

 

is it the same deal for droppin a b20z into an EF? the driver side bracket needs to be changed out to a DA bracket?

 

Don't mean to post *****, but how do you like the HASport billet mounts. I hate my HCP EF-18X mounts.