1) A friend of mine has a dad with an RSX-S; he likes to play with cars and has gotten some new rims. Noting that his rims might look nice on my car, he pretty much told me to take them. Now, this is where I'm need help from ya'll (Yeah, I'm from Alabama); can I take the stock rims/tires off an RSX-S and replace my completely stock 95 EX's wheels with them? The rims themselves are 16" whereas stock for my model is 15". I seriously doubt that the wheels wouldn't fit in the wheel well, but I was thinking more along the lines of if I have to replace the tire or what. Also thoughts on the aesthetic look that it would give my car, if you know what the stock rims look like.

2) I was thinking of doing some mods to my car. Yeah, I know, big surprise. Among some of the options was a turbo, an H22 swap, an H22 head swap, or just buying a new car. When looking over the last option, I was thinking to myself, "Don't the V6's have more power than the 4-bangers?" I just haven't seen a lot of talk about modifying an Accord with a V6 and was wondering if anyone does or has done it. Yeah, I know, search. I tried earlier today and about a week or so ago, but it keeps wiggin out on me. So I guess the question is "Is there aftermarket support for the V6 Accord? Why don't I ever hear about how powerful an engine it is or engine swaps for the V6?"

3) Difference between Vtec and i-Vtec. I've asked a few people and they said there was no difference. Anyone?

4) This is my first post here. Hi, I'm Paul. Yeah, I know, not a question, but I thought it made for a nice closer. Thanks!

 

naw, the lug size for the rsx is different from the accords so they won't fit. i aint a pro but i think if you try to do swaps, you'll have problems if you have no experience. you should try to know some heads up before you do something big. that's just my opinion

 

he^^ got your question answered about the rim fitment.


first off, it is possible to swap in the V6 engine, but its a waste of time and money.

next, what do you really want to do? H22 swap, turbo?

Decide first, then ask more questions.

Doing an H22 swap is a very popular upgrade to accords, and id say from a scale from 1-10 the difficulty level would be around a 5 or 6, it all depends on your mechanical skills.
It's a very reliable swap, its fast, fun, but not very cheap. You might be able to get a usdm H22 for around 1.5k, but if you dont know how to swap, then expect your local shop to rip you another ******* in the install price. Shops like to rip people off, but it shouldnt be more than 1k for the swap, since you already have vtec, the biggest thing would be the wiring harness, but besides that, its a direct swap, you can even use your stock mounts.


as far as turbo goes, its a lot cheaper, especially if you just want to get the same power an h22 would put out.
I know plenty of dudes that have turboed the F22, completely stock internals, and rape accords with H22 in em all day, for a lot cheaper than 2k.
You can make your own kit for around 1.5k, if you use ubderdata, but 2k should get you same results an h22 would.

I suggest you search other forums if the search feature is down here.

-Jose

 

no offense...but if you dont know how to size rims and tires then you would be in way over your head with a turbo or a swap. Sounds to me you don't know much about your car, or any car in general. Do yourself a favor and read things. READ READ READ. And learn. then you might be able to come to the conclusion that modding accords is a waste of money. I did it and ive come to that conclusion. Other than that your better off buying a "fast new car" than modding your accord because with your mechanical knowledge(0) youd pay a shop as much as youd put a down payment on a new evo or S2k....

 

Thanks for everyone's input. I guess I didn't really make myself clear about my second question though. I've just been THINKING about doing this stuff. I'm nowhere near the stage of just throwin some cash at my car without doing research on it. I am just in the learning stage of asking questions, and the real point of the matter is I hear about H22's and boosted F22's just stomping people and how great our 4 cylinders are, but I never really hear about how good the V6 Accords are. Is there a reason for that? Are the Accords that COME WITH the V6 too heavy or just sluggish in general? To be as clear as possible, I'm not thinking of trying to swap a V6 motor into my car, just buy a stock V6 Accord.

And as far as me not knowing anything about my car, Crazy D (a little offense taken but I know you mean well), you're probably right. Compared to ya'll, I'm a complete newb, but I have been reading. Actually I've been lurking this forum for over a month. In fact, that's kind of a problem-- alot of times doing some of these things can sound simple that I catch myself thinking, "That wouldn't be hard to do, all you have to do is...." And maybe modding the Accord is a waste of time, but it's something I'm interested in. What DO you drive if not an accord?

 

Sorry to offend. i usually speak the harsh truth. Even if you dont know much about your car that doesnt mean you cant learn. thats why you're here right? I drive a 92 accord and ive come to the conclusion that regardless of how much money i ever put into it it will alway be just an ACCORD. Sure you can make it a bit faster or a bit flashier, but for the kind of money that you need for a swap or turbo, i would rather put a nice down payment on i nicer and faster car.(assuming you have a steady job to keep up w payments) Evo, s2k, M3, srt4(?), STi, you know, the big boys. To sum things up, im not telling you its pointless to put money into an accord, but there are other and better ways to spend your hard earned money.

BTW, im a noob too

 

Not many people have V6 accords for one thing. And second, they have enough power from the start, so people don't really think about mods for them, I guess.

 

the majority of people that have v6 accords are old people, lol. hence why you dont see many of them being modded.
They can be fast, like any other car, but it takes time and money, especially since its a new fairly new car, not much aftermarket support to make it fast.
I know of 2 people with supercharged v6 accords, and damn do they ******* fly!

but anyways, crazy d has been drinking too much of that haterade, lol.

If you(you in general, im not targeting anyone)have wasted over 1k in an accord(in performance parts) and still are slow, then you should just give up, since already I can tell you dont know much about cars.

It's not hard to make accords go fast, just like it isnt hard for a civic to go fast. If you spend money on a civic to make it faster/flashier, what is that gona end up being? a civic, just like an accord will be an accord.

I can get my accord to be faster and better looking than an s2k for not even half of what an s2k would cost. oh, and i dont think that 2k is enough for a down payment for an s2k, maybe an old one, but not the new ones. 2k is all i need to make an accord faster than a stock s2k.

People think that making an accord faster is a waste of time, why? I really dont see why. I mean, its the same thing as making a civic, or tegra, or any other car faster. So what if its an accord, people want to be different, not everyone wants a damn civic or tegra.

-Jose




Modified by d112crzy at 5:36 PM 11/17/2005

 

I wont smoke an s2k in rally race, because ofcourse i wouldnt have the suspension to do ti. But when i said that i would smoke one, i would have more hp, and have a faster 1/4. If you dont beleive that i could do it under 2k, then go to cb7tuner.com. its been done before, not very hard actually. It's called peicing your own kit, thats the best way to get he bang for your buck. Most people dont like to do it that way, but thats becuase they dont know how, but thats their fault.

-Jose


Modified by d112crzy at 5:27 PM 11/17/2005

 

S2k > Accord

Period.

all around the s2k is better than any accord with 2k in it. Handling, Straights, Girl pulling ability(thats the important part). I would much rather have a sports car than a family sedan. Even if you made an accord faster than any of the cars i mentioned, especially the BMW or the S2k, me and the hot chick sitting in my passenger seat would laugh as you id your ricer fly by in your family sedan. Think about it that way.

NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO TO AN ACCORD ITS STILL A FAMILY SEDAN!!!!

BTW 2k is not even enough for a back yard turbo. much less a SC or any thing it would take to be remotely fast.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crazy D &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">S2k &gt; Accord

Period.

all around the s2k is better than any accord with 2k in it. Handling, Straights, Girl pulling ability(thats the important part). I would much rather have a sports car than a family sedan. Even if you made an accord faster than any of the cars i mentioned, especially the BMW or the S2k, me and the hot chick sitting in my passenger seat would laugh as you id your ricer fly by in your family sedan. Think about it that way.

NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO TO AN ACCORD ITS STILL A FAMILY SEDAN!!!!

BTW 2k is not even enough for a back yard turbo. much less a SC or any thing it would take to be remotely fast.</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha but then then you'd only have room for one hot chick, i could pack 5 hot chicks even 7 if i used the trunk in my car, plus people who own S2000's usually have a daily driver, sometimes even a accord, i admit the S2000 is a great car, and yes the accord was never intended to be some "fly by pimp *** race car", but people have budgets, and you work with what you get-

 

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true that.....

whatever floats your boat

 

Look at it this way. If you want to do a motor swap, head swap, turbo, etc, no dealer will want to touch you car. You will be stuck doing the maitainance on your own. If you feel you can do that, they you are good. Deals hate the aftermarket and custom shops hate doing maitainence. If you go turbo, i really think that you should install it yourself, figure out how it works, etc. If you can't do that, you probably arn't read for turbo related problems you may encounter. Sure you can take it to a custom shop, have things dealt with but you will end up paying more than you should and they may not do quality work. Same goes for any head swap or motor swap in my opinion. Unless you are willing to tackle that, i'd try to find a V6 and do some bolt ons. The problem with V6's is that you are stuck with auto unless you go with 2003 and up. That's what kept me from going with a v6. They have much better power and you will be far more content if you can handle and auto. I personally couldn't make that sacrifice. If you can, i think it's probably the best option unless you've dealt with modified cars before. Other wise, start with things like intake, exhaust, pullies, and try to do the work yourself.

 

First of all, let me say that you have GOT to learn on something, just like I did. I'm only 18 and my 91 Accord is the perfect car to mess around with for your first years of driving/tuning. 500 bucks on top of that... You would rather learn on a S2000 which costs what like 25000 at the least. Just learn on a cheap car. Its the best route to go.

Plus 25k invested in an Accord would KKKKKKKKKKILLLLLLL an S2000

 

what kind of freakin retard would put 25 k in an accord??

YEs the accord is a good car to learn on. No its not worth putting more than 2k into.

 

I'm just saying the kind of money that could be wasted in putting 25 into a S2000 and then blowing it up when you try to tune it is stupid. Just learn with the basics.

Plus, for everyone that thinks that Accords have no potential, this guy has 400 horses on a STOCK ENGINE! ---- http://www.cardomain.com/ride/648358

 

When will you people learn?

Speed isnt everything.... Wow he ran a 12.5 sec run... OMFGZORS!!! Take it easy killer. I would take the extra 2 secs and ride in a SUPERIOR styled car like an s2k with better everything else. The 1/4 mile isnt everything. Its a narrow minded philosophy. That guy is using octane booster w every tank? The lack of efficient gas mileage, the price of all the mods, the fact that he has to use race gas, and all the tires he goes through will add up to more than 25k. in less than 3 yrs...

BTW he will never be able to sell that car for more than 5k. Tops. I know i wouldnt pay more for it.

Oh yeah, cb5 still isnt a chick magnet.

 

oh yeah one more thing...

Pistons, rods, sleeves, port & polish, turbo, nitrous, etc.. is NOT STOCK!!

 

When did i say that an Accord is better than any S2000? I said it was better for a first car for a person new to racing/tuning, etc., because if you screw it up, its not that big of a deal and you can learn from your mistake. I know I wouldn't want to learn from a mistake with the consequences being 30000 dollars... Plus if he's a younger guy, he will have to make payments on the car, and probably won't be able to modify it unless he makes quite a bit of money.

 

Alright, I have a lot to say on this topic that disagrees with a lot of people...

first of all, the rsx has a 5 lug wheel (5x100 i believe) and the accord uses a 4 lug setup (4x114.3)...even if you did the 5 lug swap for an accord, you still would be using a 5x114.3 setup instead of a 5x 100...therefore, the rsx wheels will not work...

then why are you posting on this site Crazy D...if modifying accords is a waste of time, i really see no reason why you would waste your time on honda-tech to make your best attempt to riddicule accords owners into thinking they can never build a fast accord (which is false)...sounds like you either have too much time on your hands, or nothing else to do with your life to me...

you are right...and the fact that it's an accord is what i (and i assume the rest of the accord community on honda-tech) love about it...

first of all, i'd hardly call any of those cars the big boys...first of all, one of those cars is a fwd turbo charged 4 that most any boosted accord could keep up if not take on...the rest of them are merely nicely priced performance oriented vehicles...

actually the v6 accords aren't typically used as a good starting platform because they are only mated to automatic transmissions..yes you can swap in a manual transmission, but finding and executing such a swap is less common...however, that doesn't rule it out to become a fast car...with enough money and fabrication, anything is possible...

an accord can beat a stock s2k in both power and handling with the proper modification...however, what i think all of you are trying to say is that an s2k is and always will be a better platform to start from...it's obviously rwd and perfectly balanced, making it far superior from the get-go...that doesn't mean that an accord can't take it on though after modification has taken place...

i guess this shows your knowledge on vtec...the definition of vtec is variable valve timing and lift electronically controlled...the more aggressive profile on a vtec cam basically means that the lift and duration of the valves is altered once vtec is engaged...ignition timing and air/fuel maps are also altered in this condition...

i-vtec uses this same technology, but also alters the cam timing as well, adjusting it at various intervals over the entire rpm band depending on a variety of different driving conditions...

this is all a matter of opinion, not fact...if someone wants to put enough money into their accord in order to beat an s2k in any aspect, the only reason you would laugh is because you are too embarrassed to admit that an accord just beat your car and you have to use the "my car looks cooler and is a sports car" reasoning to justify your embarrassment...

obviously you have never heard of the dsm turbo setup for the f22a motors...nor are you familiar with piecing together a turbo kit and using uberdata...both can easily be successfully accomplished for under 2k...


once again, opinions are yours alone and are of no relevance in any kind of intelligent conversation...if someone wants to invest 25k in an accord, that is their own choice...


a narrow minded minded philosophy is also thinking that an accord can't be properly tuned to compete with the best of them...with the right money and tuning, anything can be accomplished with an accord...but the same can be said for any car as well...

Maybe you should email Mugen with your opinion and let them know that the accord never would or will amount to anything...I mean, they did build the Mugen Accord Racecar that won every single race in 1996 in the JGTC FWD GT series, 5 of which by more than a lap over every competitor (cars like integra type r's, civic type r's, all cars that you would consider far superior to the accord)...

or maybe, you express your concern for the accord as a Family Sedan to the champion of the 2004 USTCC, who ironically was driving an accord...but oh wait, he was up against cars like wrx's, audi a4's, ITR's, and other "superior" cars...I guess with the propper knowledge, tuning, and dedication to the accord as a respectable car, anything is possible after all...it's really just the negative attitued of users like Crazy D that keep more accords from becoming serious competition...

 

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are you serious? If you really beleive this, then you know nothing. My friend built his turbo kit for 1.5k and a whoops my other friends h22 with a PnP head and some cams. And im sure that he can almost, if not stay with an s2k. ****, i know someone that put a lil over 2k into their accord and smoke ******* s2k's.

If you think putting money into an accord is a waste, then wtf are you doing on this forum? Get out, no one wants ur useless opinion. they asked what they could do, not if you thought that putting money into an accord was a waste.

stfu noob.


-Jose

 

Lol I'm with these guys........

 

I have too much time on my hands????

I post here because i can.

investing 25k or 2k in any accord will always be a waste of money.

S2k &gt; accord. ALways and forever.

YOU cant polish a turd.

Only idiots like you would defend a losing car.
Im a noob? youve been here like 6 months longer dude... get over yourself. I would love to see a vid of your friends "under 2k" turbo accord beating an s2k. Until then Stfu and you GTFO. ******* liar.

 

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read, **** smokers.....


Modified by Crazy D at 10:12 AM 11/17/2005

 

What I really want to know is why you are bashing accords in the accord forum you dumbass. Everytime someone posts a relevant question about an accord leave it to some dumbass like an Eagle Talon owner or something talking about his car is so much faster then an accord. A talon,,, what is that like a fake eclipse or what (he's not necessarily an owner but 2 guys tried talking **** to me that owned talon's). 2000 Dollars won't necessarily slay an S2K off the road, but not much more than 5 definitely would. What is that like 1/6th of what a S2000 costs???