GM's Time Attack Press Release
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GM's Time Attack Press Release
FOR RELEASE: 2005-11-11
Chevy Cobalt SS Supercharged Smokes Competition at Toyo Tires Time Attack
FWD Cobalt finishes with fastest time overall besting AWD, FWD and RWD competitors
BUTTONWILLOW, Calif. – The Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged continued its Time Attack assault at Buttonwillow Raceway Park on Nov. 8, finishing with the fastest time overall (1:51) and first in the Front Engine Front Drive (FF) Unlimited Class at the Toyo Tires Time Attack presented by Super Street and eurotuner magazines. It is the second fastest time ever for a Time Attack run at Buttonwillow and eclipses the previous records set for FF Unlimited (1:57) and all-wheel-drive (AWD) Limited (1:54) classes.
Race-prepared by GM Performance Division for FF Unlimited Time Attack competition and driven by current SCCA driving champion John Heinricy, the Front-Wheel-Drive (FWD) Cobalt SS Supercharged bested more than 50 competitors driving such established AWD racecars as the Nissan Skyline and Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution among others, and was one of only three domestic entries along with the Ford Mustang and Dodge Neon.
“Our team was outstanding and this win is further proof of the credentials GM Performance Division and Chevy are building with the street tuner crowd for the Cobalt SS and its Ecotec engine,” said Heinricy, director of High Performance Vehicle Operations for GM Performance Division. “The competition was tough, but the graciousness in defeat shown by Tarzan Yamada, one of the preeminent drivers in Japanese street racing, was very telling as to how far GM has come in a relatively short period of time.”
Based on Chevy’s new factory-built FWD “tuner” car, the Cobalt SS Supercharged was also chronicled on the SPEED Channel’s Street Tuner Challenge during its 13-week build in preparation for the show’s Time Attack event on July 21. In that contest, the Cobalt bested an 801 hp twin-turbo Nissan Skyline and a nitrous-charged Volkswagen Jetta by seven and 15 seconds respectively with a posted time of 1:58 on Buttonwillow’s #13 track configuration.
The Cobalt SS Supercharged has largely maintained its production roots from a parts standpoint, but was further tuned in preparation for the Nov. 8 event, including an added nitrous boost increasing the horsepower to 380 and torque to 387 lb.-ft. among other aerodynamic improvements and chassis tuning.
The premise behind Time Attack is to take a street vehicle and – using DOT approved tires – turn in the fastest lap on a racetrack for the vehicle class. The vehicle must be from a model originally produced for legal street use and it must have a silhouette largely faithful to the original.
The Cobalt SS Supercharged has strong performance credentials in factory trim. Powered by a supercharged and intercooled 205-horsepower, 2.0-liter Ecotec DOHC four-cylinder engine and equipped with a finely-tuned suspension developed on Germany’s famed Nurburgring race track, the production Cobalt SS Supercharged has brought more heat to the already red-hot sport compact segment, and has been quite a dealer draw since its introduction in late 2004.
GM Performance Division in collaboration with Chevrolet, GM Powertrain, GM Performance Parts and GM Design created the Cobalt SS for Time Attack competition to demonstrate the ultimate capabilities of the Ecotec engine. Time Attack challenges involve multiple runs, so the engine must be powerful and durable.
The engine features an Eaton M-62 Gen 5 Hybrid supercharger, and delivers 283 horsepower at 6840 rpm and 243 lb.-ft. of torque at 4200 rpm without the nitrous. It is also Stage 2+ equipped, using a smaller pulley than the Stage 2 kit available soon through GM Performance Parts to achieve even greater torque.
Some of the production Cobalt elements were replaced with carbon fiber counterparts, including the hood, doors, roof, decklid, rear wing, side rocker extensions and Sparco car seat. The vehicle’s glass has also been replaced with Lexan, and interior trim has been kept to a minimum. The end result is a vehicle weighing a mere 2,350 pounds.
Powell Motorsport, Lotus Engineering and Martin Technologies provided GM Performance Division with vehicle preparation, logistical support and engineering collaboration for the Toyo Tires Time Attack event.
Chevy Cobalt SS Supercharged Time Attack Unlimited Specifications
Body/chassis structure:
Unibody
Body material:
Two sided galvanized steel; carbon fiber doors, hood, decklid, rear wing, front and side rocker extensions, roof
Chassis material:
Two sided galvanized steel, carbon fiber roof
Suspension
Front:
Macpherson strut, no front bar, increased spring rates, Ohlins double adjustable struts
Rear:
Twisting beam with adjustable sway bar, increased spring rate, Ohlins double adjustable shocks
Wheels:
9.5 x 17
Tire size
Front:
245/40R17
Rear:
Same as front
Tire brand:
Hoosier DOT
Brakes:
310 x 26 - vented discs front
270 x 14 - solid discs rear
Powertrain
Engine:
Stage 2+ equipped 2.0L ECOTEC LSJ with Eaton M-62 Gen 5 Hybrid supercharger, larger injectors and 77.9 mm pulley
Engine displacement (cu. in / cc):
122 / 2000
Horsepower maximum (hp):
283 @ 6840 rpm
380 @ 6700 rpm with nitrous
Torque maximum (lb.-ft.):
243 @ 4200 rpm
387 @ 3500 rpm with nitrous
Transmission:
F35 5-speed manual with 4.45 final drive
Dimensions
Height (inches):
55.7
Length (inches):
180.3
Width (inches):
67.9
Wheelbase (inches):
103.3
Track
Front / rear (inches):
57.1 / 58.1 nominal
Weight (lbs / kg):
2350 / 1066
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Chevy Cobalt SS Supercharged Smokes Competition at Toyo Tires Time Attack
FWD Cobalt finishes with fastest time overall besting AWD, FWD and RWD competitors
BUTTONWILLOW, Calif. – The Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged continued its Time Attack assault at Buttonwillow Raceway Park on Nov. 8, finishing with the fastest time overall (1:51) and first in the Front Engine Front Drive (FF) Unlimited Class at the Toyo Tires Time Attack presented by Super Street and eurotuner magazines. It is the second fastest time ever for a Time Attack run at Buttonwillow and eclipses the previous records set for FF Unlimited (1:57) and all-wheel-drive (AWD) Limited (1:54) classes.
Race-prepared by GM Performance Division for FF Unlimited Time Attack competition and driven by current SCCA driving champion John Heinricy, the Front-Wheel-Drive (FWD) Cobalt SS Supercharged bested more than 50 competitors driving such established AWD racecars as the Nissan Skyline and Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution among others, and was one of only three domestic entries along with the Ford Mustang and Dodge Neon.
“Our team was outstanding and this win is further proof of the credentials GM Performance Division and Chevy are building with the street tuner crowd for the Cobalt SS and its Ecotec engine,” said Heinricy, director of High Performance Vehicle Operations for GM Performance Division. “The competition was tough, but the graciousness in defeat shown by Tarzan Yamada, one of the preeminent drivers in Japanese street racing, was very telling as to how far GM has come in a relatively short period of time.”
Based on Chevy’s new factory-built FWD “tuner” car, the Cobalt SS Supercharged was also chronicled on the SPEED Channel’s Street Tuner Challenge during its 13-week build in preparation for the show’s Time Attack event on July 21. In that contest, the Cobalt bested an 801 hp twin-turbo Nissan Skyline and a nitrous-charged Volkswagen Jetta by seven and 15 seconds respectively with a posted time of 1:58 on Buttonwillow’s #13 track configuration.
The Cobalt SS Supercharged has largely maintained its production roots from a parts standpoint, but was further tuned in preparation for the Nov. 8 event, including an added nitrous boost increasing the horsepower to 380 and torque to 387 lb.-ft. among other aerodynamic improvements and chassis tuning.
The premise behind Time Attack is to take a street vehicle and – using DOT approved tires – turn in the fastest lap on a racetrack for the vehicle class. The vehicle must be from a model originally produced for legal street use and it must have a silhouette largely faithful to the original.
The Cobalt SS Supercharged has strong performance credentials in factory trim. Powered by a supercharged and intercooled 205-horsepower, 2.0-liter Ecotec DOHC four-cylinder engine and equipped with a finely-tuned suspension developed on Germany’s famed Nurburgring race track, the production Cobalt SS Supercharged has brought more heat to the already red-hot sport compact segment, and has been quite a dealer draw since its introduction in late 2004.
GM Performance Division in collaboration with Chevrolet, GM Powertrain, GM Performance Parts and GM Design created the Cobalt SS for Time Attack competition to demonstrate the ultimate capabilities of the Ecotec engine. Time Attack challenges involve multiple runs, so the engine must be powerful and durable.
The engine features an Eaton M-62 Gen 5 Hybrid supercharger, and delivers 283 horsepower at 6840 rpm and 243 lb.-ft. of torque at 4200 rpm without the nitrous. It is also Stage 2+ equipped, using a smaller pulley than the Stage 2 kit available soon through GM Performance Parts to achieve even greater torque.
Some of the production Cobalt elements were replaced with carbon fiber counterparts, including the hood, doors, roof, decklid, rear wing, side rocker extensions and Sparco car seat. The vehicle’s glass has also been replaced with Lexan, and interior trim has been kept to a minimum. The end result is a vehicle weighing a mere 2,350 pounds.
Powell Motorsport, Lotus Engineering and Martin Technologies provided GM Performance Division with vehicle preparation, logistical support and engineering collaboration for the Toyo Tires Time Attack event.
Chevy Cobalt SS Supercharged Time Attack Unlimited Specifications
Body/chassis structure:
Unibody
Body material:
Two sided galvanized steel; carbon fiber doors, hood, decklid, rear wing, front and side rocker extensions, roof
Chassis material:
Two sided galvanized steel, carbon fiber roof
Suspension
Front:
Macpherson strut, no front bar, increased spring rates, Ohlins double adjustable struts
Rear:
Twisting beam with adjustable sway bar, increased spring rate, Ohlins double adjustable shocks
Wheels:
9.5 x 17
Tire size
Front:
245/40R17
Rear:
Same as front
Tire brand:
Hoosier DOT
Brakes:
310 x 26 - vented discs front
270 x 14 - solid discs rear
Powertrain
Engine:
Stage 2+ equipped 2.0L ECOTEC LSJ with Eaton M-62 Gen 5 Hybrid supercharger, larger injectors and 77.9 mm pulley
Engine displacement (cu. in / cc):
122 / 2000
Horsepower maximum (hp):
283 @ 6840 rpm
380 @ 6700 rpm with nitrous
Torque maximum (lb.-ft.):
243 @ 4200 rpm
387 @ 3500 rpm with nitrous
Transmission:
F35 5-speed manual with 4.45 final drive
Dimensions
Height (inches):
55.7
Length (inches):
180.3
Width (inches):
67.9
Wheelbase (inches):
103.3
Track
Front / rear (inches):
57.1 / 58.1 nominal
Weight (lbs / kg):
2350 / 1066
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Re: GM's Time Attack Press Release (thawley)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thawley »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"...Tarzan Yamada, one of the preeminent drivers in Japanese street racing..."</TD></TR></TABLE>
interesting.
interesting.
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Anyone know how those lap times compare to other series? I didn't get a chance to go out there, and am wondering how they would stack up with SCCA Classes.
(Looked on the web for 30 min, can only find some lap times which show SCCA Formula Atlantics running 1:50s, so I am thinking that is a different configuration.)
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(Looked on the web for 30 min, can only find some lap times which show SCCA Formula Atlantics running 1:50s, so I am thinking that is a different configuration.)
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Re: GM's Time Attack Press Release (nonsense)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonsense »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow nice job 
I wonder if the Cobalts are going to make their way into Speed WC next season? </TD></TR></TABLE>
And hang out with the Neons? They've already won races where their are now.
I wonder if the Cobalts are going to make their way into Speed WC next season? </TD></TR></TABLE>
And hang out with the Neons? They've already won races where their are now.
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Re: GM's Time Attack Press Release (thawley)
Well, if you send Jesse James to a Boy Scout shootout, Jesse's gonna win. 
I got two words to explain all the hoopla: John Heinricy
GM sent a ringer to an itty bitty competition. Makes for good marketing copy, though...
I got two words to explain all the hoopla: John Heinricy
GM sent a ringer to an itty bitty competition. Makes for good marketing copy, though...
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Re: GM's Time Attack Press Release (gpteitz)
Exactly. GM's on a big push to sell the Ecotec and its platforms. They're willing to spend big $$$ to do so. But you don't establish street cred by swapping out most of the sheet metal for CF, renting the track for multiple days before the event and having Lotus Engineering do development work for you.
You'll earn respect, and you'll show you've got *****, but no one is going to think that performance is representative of what the average tuner kid can do (unlike, say, Derek Steven's EG last year, which is quite reproducible). And _I_ don't think that GM's sort of effort is going to sell cars either. Their backing of cars in Grand Am will certainly get racers on board (because racers want to win - most don't care what they do it in), but it won't translate into consumer sales.
All that said, I sure wish Honda would put more effort into backing some folks in racing efforts like this. A full factory effort wouldn't be much more effective for Honda than GM in this market, but throwing some weight behind some talented and dedicated racers/teams would go a long way. Aww, I'm just jealous that I don't have GM's pockets is all.
C_A_T
You'll earn respect, and you'll show you've got *****, but no one is going to think that performance is representative of what the average tuner kid can do (unlike, say, Derek Steven's EG last year, which is quite reproducible). And _I_ don't think that GM's sort of effort is going to sell cars either. Their backing of cars in Grand Am will certainly get racers on board (because racers want to win - most don't care what they do it in), but it won't translate into consumer sales.
All that said, I sure wish Honda would put more effort into backing some folks in racing efforts like this. A full factory effort wouldn't be much more effective for Honda than GM in this market, but throwing some weight behind some talented and dedicated racers/teams would go a long way. Aww, I'm just jealous that I don't have GM's pockets is all.
C_A_T
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Re: GM's Time Attack Press Release (C_A_T)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C_A_T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Exactly. GM's on a big push to sell the Ecotec and its platforms. They're willing to spend big $$$ to do so. But you don't establish street cred by swapping out most of the sheet metal for CF, renting the track for multiple days before the event and having Lotus Engineering do development work for you.
You'll earn respect, and you'll show you've got *****, but no one is going to think that performance is representative of what the average tuner kid can do (unlike, say, Derek Steven's EG last year, which is quite reproducible). And _I_ don't think that GM's sort of effort is going to sell cars either. Their backing of cars in Grand Am will certainly get racers on board (because racers want to win - most don't care what they do it in), but it won't translate into consumer sales.
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When they turn around and make the parts they developed with all that effort available to the public, at a pittance price like the Mopar hop-up parts go for, what will you say then?
You'll earn respect, and you'll show you've got *****, but no one is going to think that performance is representative of what the average tuner kid can do (unlike, say, Derek Steven's EG last year, which is quite reproducible). And _I_ don't think that GM's sort of effort is going to sell cars either. Their backing of cars in Grand Am will certainly get racers on board (because racers want to win - most don't care what they do it in), but it won't translate into consumer sales.
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When they turn around and make the parts they developed with all that effort available to the public, at a pittance price like the Mopar hop-up parts go for, what will you say then?
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Re: GM's Time Attack Press Release (madhatter)
Too late hatter, because they already sell a lot of engine stuff used from the drag racing development program.
And my response? They still aren't selling many Cobalts, Sunfires and Ions to enthusiasts (or even to the general public). Nor do I see a lot of amateurs choosing Cobalts for their own racing efforts (unlike say, Mazdas, which also have great contingency, incentive and parts support). I'm not sure why (even the SRT4 doesn't enjoy the popularity I would have expected, especially with the model's long racing history with the old ACR, etc.).
As I said, you have to give the company respect for spending the money and building the race cars, but that doesn't earn you street cred.
C_A_T
And my response? They still aren't selling many Cobalts, Sunfires and Ions to enthusiasts (or even to the general public). Nor do I see a lot of amateurs choosing Cobalts for their own racing efforts (unlike say, Mazdas, which also have great contingency, incentive and parts support). I'm not sure why (even the SRT4 doesn't enjoy the popularity I would have expected, especially with the model's long racing history with the old ACR, etc.).
As I said, you have to give the company respect for spending the money and building the race cars, but that doesn't earn you street cred.
C_A_T
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Re: GM's Time Attack Press Release (C_A_T)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C_A_T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> but that doesn't earn you street cred.
C_A_T</TD></TR></TABLE>
You sound a little like Officer Bryan O`Connor
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You sound a little like Officer Bryan O`Connor
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Impressive, but let's not forget that they entered an amature event with a heavily modified car backed by one of the largest cars makers in the world, and that a huge amount of it's power comes from nitrous use. As other have said, you can't just buy a Cobalt, a few parts, and get this level of performance, or anywhere near it. This is also a car that's not going to be impressive for anything other than short sprints... a great drag racing, time trials, and qualifying car, but let's see it run an entire race. Of course, we're ignoring the fact that the more respected sanctioning bodies don't allow nitrous use for obvious reasons.
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Re: (Weston)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Weston »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Impressive, but let's not forget that they entered an amature event with a heavily modified car backed by one of the largest cars makers in the world, and that a huge amount of it's power comes from nitrous use. As other have said, you can't just buy a Cobalt, a few parts, and get this level of performance, or anywhere near it. This is also a car that's not going to be impressive for anything other than short sprints... a great drag racing, time trials, and qualifying car, but let's see it run an entire race. Of course, we're ignoring the fact that the more respected sanctioning bodies don't allow nitrous use for obvious reasons.
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Maybe I am missing something, but is the Grand-Am Cup Series not a legitimate series that you all consider? The Cobalt won 3 races this year and even beat out the Acuras. And as far as I know, it's not a "factory" effort.
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Maybe I am missing something, but is the Grand-Am Cup Series not a legitimate series that you all consider? The Cobalt won 3 races this year and even beat out the Acuras. And as far as I know, it's not a "factory" effort.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jakks20 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe I am missing something, but is the Grand-Am Cup Series not a legitimate series that you all consider? The Cobalt won 3 races this year and even beat out the Acuras. And as far as I know, it's not a "factory" effort. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I think you are missing the fact that we are talking about a specific car at a specific event. No one is saying that it doesn't have potential... Frankly, I think it's better bang-for-the-buck than a new RSX Type-S. It's just that when the car's maker backs an effort to build the **** out of it for an amature event, it's not really in the spirit of that competition, because it is not something that amature racers could build for themselves. It's not even legal for a pretty unrestricted racing class like ITE. Nitrous doesn't belong on the road course.
Modified by Weston at 4:39 PM 11/12/2005
I think you are missing the fact that we are talking about a specific car at a specific event. No one is saying that it doesn't have potential... Frankly, I think it's better bang-for-the-buck than a new RSX Type-S. It's just that when the car's maker backs an effort to build the **** out of it for an amature event, it's not really in the spirit of that competition, because it is not something that amature racers could build for themselves. It's not even legal for a pretty unrestricted racing class like ITE. Nitrous doesn't belong on the road course.
Modified by Weston at 4:39 PM 11/12/2005
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Thanks for explaining. 
On the business side it looks like a cheaper way to get a "win" for advertising purposes than to field a car in a full-time series. Maybe they need all the help they can get at this point.
On the business side it looks like a cheaper way to get a "win" for advertising purposes than to field a car in a full-time series. Maybe they need all the help they can get at this point.
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Re: GM's Time Attack Press Release (HPDE007)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HPDE007 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Too bad they weren't using Tom Lepper for the Time Attack. I would love to see him out there spanking everyone else.</TD></TR></TABLE>
riiiight....because John Heinricy is a hack....
riiiight....because John Heinricy is a hack....
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Re: (Weston)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Weston »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Impressive, but let's not forget that they entered an amature event with a heavily modified car backed by one of the largest cars makers in the world, and that a huge amount of it's power comes from nitrous use. As other have said, you can't just buy a Cobalt, a few parts, and get this level of performance, or anywhere near it. This is also a car that's not going to be impressive for anything other than short sprints... a great drag racing, time trials, and qualifying car, but let's see it run an entire race. Of course, we're ignoring the fact that the more respected sanctioning bodies don't allow nitrous use for obvious reasons.
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I think that some BIG Cheese at GM said, hey, if we are gonna enter this thing as a factory backed car, do what you gotta do and spend what you gotta spend to make sure we win, otherwise we're really gonna look bad losing at an amateur event.
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I think that some BIG Cheese at GM said, hey, if we are gonna enter this thing as a factory backed car, do what you gotta do and spend what you gotta spend to make sure we win, otherwise we're really gonna look bad losing at an amateur event.
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Re: GM's Time Attack
i think its really funny to see all the hate going on. Really it discredits, ALOT of the other teams out there. The other cars out there weren't just "thrown together cars". Some of them were aftermarket manufacters own cars, and some of them have ALOT of money thrown at them im sure not as much as GM but they do have ALOT of money thown at them.
Finally maybe people in Time attach will figure out it isn't all about HP on a road course.
And isn't that tarzzan dude supposed to be one of the best drivers from japan?
Finally maybe people in Time attach will figure out it isn't all about HP on a road course.
And isn't that tarzzan dude supposed to be one of the best drivers from japan?
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Re: GM's Time Attack (slammed_93_hatch)
GM was sandbagging this year in Grand-Am. Yes, sandbagging. This comes straight from some people running the Cobalt. They could have won nearly every race this year if they wanted to.
As for the hating, hey, money wins. GM has money. I wish I had the money. But spending it still doesn't make the car or the manufacturer better than anyone else. It makes their racing effort better than anyone elses. That's the difference. (I wish I had Realtime's money too - not as good as GMs, but better than what I have).
C_A_T
As for the hating, hey, money wins. GM has money. I wish I had the money. But spending it still doesn't make the car or the manufacturer better than anyone else. It makes their racing effort better than anyone elses. That's the difference. (I wish I had Realtime's money too - not as good as GMs, but better than what I have).
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Re: GM's Time Attack (slammed_93_hatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And isn't that tarzzan dude supposed to be one of the best drivers from japan?</TD></TR></TABLE>
He is a JGTC Driver and a time atack driver over there amoung other things.
He is a JGTC Driver and a time atack driver over there amoung other things.