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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:31 AM
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I recently noticed a tapping sound right after startup, while the engine is cold. It's most noticeable when I try to drive it right away still cold. It's a really irregular tapping sound, and doesn't have a consistent rythym.

It sounds like it's coming from the head. If it's valve tapping, does that mean my clearances are too wide, or too narrow?
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:33 AM
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start with adjusting the valves...

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1305086
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:34 AM
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It could be valves or piston slap. Both of wich are verry common to Honda motors.

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 06:45 AM
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i agree w/ piston slap, most d16 i have heard do this when cold
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by j4yd3um4lyf3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">start with adjusting the valves...

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1305086</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually I recently adjusted them to:
Int=.17mm
Exh=.20mm

The instructions you linked are a bit different than what I did. I measured between where the rocker arm touches the camshaft on my B16.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It could be valves or piston slap. Both of which are very common to Honda motors.

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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Most of the info I found online related to piston slap is for GM motors.
http://www.pistonslap.com/pistonslap.wav

It doesn't sound like that. (For which I am thankful, because they have pictures of destroyed cylinder walls on the site too)
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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piston slap happens with forged pistons when cold, once they warm up goes away, on my 127kmile d15, i can hear a irregular ticking sound too, after slight warm up is dissapears
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mohsin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">piston slap happens with forged pistons when cold, once they warm up goes away, on my 127kmile d15, i can hear a irregular ticking sound too, after slight warm up is dissapears</TD></TR></TABLE>


i was not aware that pistons that are not forged slaped when cold... but i could be wrong
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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afaik due to high silicone content, forged materials tends to expand, once fully warm you wont be able to hear it, as for my d15 i think i need to re-adjust my valves, just to clear things up pistons which are not forged should not piston slap even when cold.
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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I rechecked my clearances and the exhaust valves on number 3 were way too tight. Hopefully that was the issue. I didn't think the SiR II B16 came with forged pistons...
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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piston slap happens on all cars all engines expand under heat, thats why we have clearances for everything (in most cases)
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