ive always used wix or nappa gold oil filters...
i was wondering what kind of oil filters you guys used?

 

K&N gold. Awesome filters, although I've heard good about the Napa Gold as well.

I used OEM until they switched to the smaller size manufactured by Honeywell. I would still use the S2000 filters, but the dealer is 30 min away for me, so I just pick mine up at the parts store.

 

OEM don't like any other ones.

 

i use fram oil filters cheap and i dont do much racing now that i just got a new ticket

 

I just use the cheepy ones from Pep-boys or wherever and change them every 3k with my oil so I dont see any harm in not getting the quality ones. Who knows though, maybe I should look into some better ones....

 

The problem with cheap oil filters is that they have poor quality media and construction, which can allow unfiltered oil to bypass the filter completely and circulate around the engine.

My K&N was still going strong after 12,000 miles: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1362909

Also note that 3,000 mile oil changes are completely unnesecary.

 

Mobil 1

 

OEM honda

 

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My K&N was still going strong after 12,000 miles: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1362909

Also note that 3,000 mile oil changes are completely unnesecary. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea I have heard that elsewhere also about the cheep oil filters and not needing an oil change every 3k miles. For now I will use the cheepy ones I have and change them every 3k till they are gone. And when I say 3k, it ends up being more like 3500-4000

I will read through your other thread later, but from what I saw when I glanced over it your oil lasted about 4000-4300 miles?

 

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6000 miles of harsh summer race duty and 11 - 12,000 on the oil filter. Looking at the results of the analysis, it could have gone longer.

 

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ah ok, I will read through that other thread later, Thanks

 

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Although this is true on a universal level, a statement like this varies from car to car. F/I setups and heavily modified N/A setups need to have oil changes every 3k miles without question.

 

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Although this is true on a universal level, a statement like this varies from car to car. F/I setups and heavily modified N/A setups need to have oil changes every 3k miles without question.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here we go again, oil debate.

Universal - including or covering all or a whole collectively or distributively without limit or exception.

 

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I wouldn't have made the statement if I hadn't been doing oil analysis tests on my cars with various oils. If you have any data that shows that a good quality oil and filter need to be changed every 3K, I'd like to see it. The way engines are built and tolerenced today, the 3K oil change just isn't relevant anymore.

 

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The way engines are built and tolerenced today, the 3K oil change just isn't relevant anymore.

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Unless your an oil company that sells oil. EVERY 3 MO OR 3K MILES!!! OMG!! YOUR A BAD PERSON!! OMGWTFBBQ!

Oh and I use a Bosch filter. K&N are pricey and I just can't bring myself to do it.

 

I always use OEM Honda.

 

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Unless your an oil company that sells oil. EVERY 3 MO OR 3K MILES!!! OMG!! YOUR A BAD PERSON!! OMGWTFBBQ!
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Someone finally gets it, lol.

I've posted that link around in some oil threads, but nobody seems to read it, and just keeps arguing with me. Cest le vie.

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Oh and I use a Bosch filter. K&N are pricey and I just can't bring myself to do it.
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I thought the same thing. That's why I let mine go for two drain intervals (since that is what's recommended in the manual) and get the oil tested. Now I know I can go for 2 changes with the K&N, and it would cost me less than buying a new one every time (I have to justify the cost somehow )

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I thought the same thing. That's why I let mine go for two drain intervals (since that is what's recommended in the manual) and get the oil tested. Now I know I can go for 2 changes with the K&N, and it would cost me less than buying a new one every time (I have to justify the cost somehow )

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Thats how I justified synthetic... Maybe I will give it a try.

 

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mobil 1 makes oil filters?
i never heard of them, where do you get them?

 

stick with wix 51334 or napa gold 1334. dont spend the extra $$ for a mobil1 oil filter.

 

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I wouldn't have made the statement if I hadn't been doing oil analysis tests on my cars with various oils. If you have any data that shows that a good quality oil and filter need to be changed every 3K, I'd like to see it. The way engines are built and tolerenced today, the 3K oil change just isn't relevant anymore.

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I'm not saying you HAVE to change your oil every 3k miles. Nor am I saying you can't go more than than 3k miles on an oil change, because you most certainly can. My '05 Accord recommends oil changes every 4,000...or 4,500 if synthetic is used. All I'm saying is that when making statements like you did (saying 3k mile oil changes are unecessary) is a bold statement without taking into consideration the level of mods done to the car, climate, mileage of the engine, mileage since last major tuneup, highway vs. city mileage, carb'd vs. fuel-injected, n/a vs. f/i, etc.

Every car/engine is different, that's all I'm saying. Some cars NEED 3k mile oil changes (mine, for example, which is boosted and driven hard often). Some cars don't. Just be careful about making statements regarding oil analysis, etc. if you can't back it up with data from MANY test subjects, not just your own personal car. And remember (this isn't a knock on your analysis at all, btw, because it's VERY helpful to have that info here for others to see), a test like that is only as successful as its procedure...are you taking the oil pan off each time and cleaning it out 100% free of oil and debris, getting EVERY drop of oil out of your engine each time, and driving it the EXACT same way each time? Probably not...so where's my percent error?

 

ive use fram, used to use puroilator but thats when i got em for free

 

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I only posted that one, because it's the only one I had online. I do have many test subjects from the cars that I've had over the years, and alot of the guys that I race with do the same. Turbo'd, chipped, built etc, race conditions, severe duty; all go more than 5K on an oil change, and most use filters for two drains. I'll try and see if any have theirs in a PDF so I can post those as well. What I was getting at was that you said you, and others, need to have it done, and I was curious as to what you base that on. Until I see some data like that (since I haven't come across any yet) I'm not buying the 3K thing (for a modern engine anyway).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neocrynym &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a test like that is only as successful as its procedure...are you taking the oil pan off each time and cleaning it out 100% free of oil and debris, getting EVERY drop of oil out of your engine each time, and driving it the EXACT same way each time? Probably not...so where's my percent error? </TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't have to drive the same all the time. That was a sample based on a summer of racing, and generally beating the living hell out of the car for 6000 miles, using a filter that was 5K old. I'd say that's a pretty good worse case scenario.

And as far as the sample goes, you don't need to have every drop out of the car. The sample was taken when hot just after shutting the car off. Every sample taken would have been homogenous, as your oil suspends solids very well. They then analyse the particulate per volume to get a concentration. That's standard sampling analysis. If I was to get any debris in the sample, it would have made the test worse anyway.

I'm not trying to knock you or anything... just saying that alot of people worry about changing their oil too much; when 3K was pretty much picked as an arbitrary industry standard to begin with. 99% of the people out there should just follow their manual as far as maintenance goes (and since we're talking honda, it's over 3K for an OCI). That's really all I posted any of the stuff for; take it for what you will.

 

since i lose about a quart of oil every thousand miles, and have to put a new one in, in theory i wouldnt have to change my oil ever, since every 3k ive had 3 refills with clean.


lol im just playin.


i do mine every 3500 - 4000 miles, and i buy fram filters, and replace them witht he oil every 3k miles. besides filter quality, whats the point in buying a more expensive filter? any performance gains?? gas mileage gains? i just dont see the point if not

 

I just bought an s2000 oem filter today for my swap. The normal oem ones are now made by Fram and that's where I draw the line. I've heard of some dealerships telling people that the s2000 filters are the same as the others, but ignore them and demand 15400-PCX-004. It's made by Toyo Roki who also makes the green Hamp filters. Don't believe the bullshit about "spending the extra money" because mine was EXACTLY the same price as the regular ones, $7.74 CND.