i built my lsvtec wit 00 si head, 94+ bottem, ls timing belt, ls water n oil pump, knock off 4-1 itr header, aebs intk mani, stock internals, AC fule rail, ls tranny.

what do yous think?

 

i think ur stupid for using the ls belt, water pump and oil pump. And you wasted ur money on a fuel rail and intake manifold at this point.

 

the ls t-belt, water and oil pump should be replaced with either a gsr or itr versions because they deliver better results. You obviously want performance and you'll get none out of that ls tranny.

Oil starvation is one of the most common faults with an lsvtec setup so make sure your oil pressure's aiight and replace that pump before you break a bearing or something.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by censurebush &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the ls t-belt, water and oil pump should be replaced with either a gsr or itr versions because they deliver better results. You obviously want performance and you'll get none out of that ls tranny.

Oil starvation is one of the most common faults with an lsvtec setup so make sure your oil pressure's aiight and replace that pump before you break a bearing or something.</TD></TR></TABLE>+1

sounds like you made a good time bomb but stinky motor

 

Just keep shifting it at 9k

 

Is it the 98+ blocks that have the same oil pump as the type R? Same part #

Change the oil pump!

 

do any of you guys know anything about hondas.The ls/b2o motors all use the same cam gear and crank gear as the b series doch vtec motors, but for the novtec motors they have a different water pump.So that means what ever water pump you use, u run that timing belt.There is no problem with running the ls belt and pump.Some people say at high rpm's the ls water pump starts to conjest itself.But i personally had no problems when ran them, even taking it 9000 rpms.So before you call anyone an idiot about running his setup, make sure you know something about what your saying.O and all obd2 oil pumps have the same part number.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by per4mance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do any of you guys know anything about hondas.The ls/b2o motors all use the same cam gear and crank gear as the b series doch vtec motors, but for the novtec motors they have a different water pump.So that means what ever water pump you use, u run that timing belt.There is no problem with running the ls belt and pump.Some people say at high rpm's the ls water pump starts to conjest itself.But i personally had no problems when ran them, even taking it 9000 rpms.So before you call anyone an idiot about running his setup, make sure you know something about what your saying.O and all obd2 oil pumps have the same part number.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hes right.

PWNED!

 

owned? he didn't state what year his oil pump was from. He noted that he has a 94+ block. Yes, all OBD2 96 and up Dohc bseries motors have the same P72 oil pump. People just call it the GSR/ITR pump because it's part number is P72...which is from the GSR. It was first used on the 94 GSR motor so that's where the part number comes from. The older ones don't have nearly the same oil pressure output as the newer ones. That higher oil psi is required to properly oil the head and activate vtec. Have you ever pulled apart a vtec head and seen all the oil orifices in it. There's a **** load. The Pre-96 pump is NOT up to the task. At least, not that long. And the ls water pump which has only 19 teeth as opposed to the 22 tooth vtec pump has a problem causing cavitation at higher rpms. It spins so fast that it isn't actually pumping fluid, but creating air bubbles. That's why the higher revving vtec motors use the slower spinning pump. No one said it was necessary to use the vtec units, only recommended. By all means, use your stock high mileage crap if you'd like. This guy said that he "personally" had no problems. Are you going to trust him?.....or HONDA?
Trust in Honda. They do things for a reason.

Trying to save a buck will kick you in the **** later. Replace the the stock units with new units at the very least. I got my belt, pump, and water pump for $145 total all brand new oem honda units. Not a large price to pay to prevent a catastrophe. Pay now or pay later.




Modified by bambam at 6:52 PM 11/6/2005

 

you can trust who you want, i don't care.I never reuse anything when i rebuild a engine.I always do timing belt waterpump, and oil pump.THe only reason i used ls stuff was because, i bought the ls motor complete from my friend, in which it had a new timing belt and water pump installed by me, no less the 2000 prior to me purchasing it.SO i was not going to waste another 145 bucks for no reason, o and how long do u actually stay in high rpms.Its not like u drive around at 8500 all day.So it really the water pump really has no time to cavitate.

 

o and one more thing, look at my sig, see all those cars that i have owned, well thats in the last two years, so yes i have pulled apart plenty of b vtec series heads, as a matter of fack i probably can draw a diagram, showing every little detail in a vtec head.

 

I don't care how many cars you've owned. I've put more motors together than you can count on all your toes and fingers. And you still haven't learned to upgrade the pumps. ur doing something wrong if you've owned that many cars in the last two years. And yes, I do stay above 7k with my lsvtec. it isn't my daily driver, only my weekend car.


It doesn't prove anything about you by typing into ur signature how many cars you've owned. Like i said, use whichever pumps you'd like. Doesn't bother me at all. In the end, it's just going to be another car you add to the bottom of ur list.

Have a nice day.

 

well in the end your still a jerk, so i will have a nice day, cause i am not you.

 

how hard do u think it will be to change the belt and pumps while its in the car?its a crx. i dont shift at 9k rps???your crazy! i got stock valve train n cams.i barly shift at 82k.maby 1st,MABY 2nd. but ''depending how your own car feels or wat u got internaly''my car dont feel like its building power up there in 3rd n 4th.78-79k is fine 4 me.stock ls bottem..