WHAT IS THE DAMN DIFFERENCE??!?!! i dont understand.. they both look the same when i compare them.. please help..

 

one of them is poop, and the other one is poopier

ill leave the decision making up to you capital boy....case that ish down y0

 

lol.. what's a non poop intake manifold then? all the other ones out there are good for boosting.. and im not boosting =[

 

spend your money elsewhere unless you have big $$ to go custom or itbs....there are no good production NA manifolds for h22s.....

 

well where can i get them customed? i've seen a couple of posts here about custom intake manifolds and i saw one that was carbon fiber but was only gaining whp from boosting.. alright thanks

 

I have a Skunk2 IM (the non pro one) and I made 224whp on a mustang dyno with AF tuned to about 12.5 (rich side). Have not had a chance to see what that is on a Dynojet yet.

My car is as little past bolt ons though.

 

if you would like to see how little it does....take it off and put the stock one on, tune the IAB point, then re-dyno....

i would be willing to bet you lose 0-5hp at the most....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you would like to see how little it does....take it off and put the stock one on, tune the IAB point, then re-dyno....

i would be willing to bet you lose 0-5hp at the most....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Probably.. but installing the Euro-R would have taken more work and the weight savings is just a bonus. ITBS would have been overkill for me (daily driver, including winter).

I'm not saying it's good, I'm just saying it's not bad.

FWIW, I had a stock IM with the butterflies removed with Crower Stage 3 cams and made 214whp (dynojet) before.

I now have Skunk2 Stage 2 cams with the Skunk2 IM. Everything else remained the same although different dynoes will screw the numbers. I plan on redynoing at the same dynojet facility where I hit my 214whp before though.

 

yep ITBs would have been tough for winter, you ought to look into a custom manifold if you cant find anything that suits your setup well....

 

soo what then? yes? or no on the Skunk2 intake manifold (not the pro one)for just a basic NA set up right now? i raced my friend's SH and he took me after he put that intake manifold about 2 cars.. he has intake header, exhaust and accessory pulleys along with that SKunk2 IM.. soo yeah yes or no.. thanks

 

I had it for a while on my na setup. It doesn't help vey much. If you only have bolt ons, then keep the stock im and get a nice header (RMF, SMSP, or DTR). Now I have a lot more done to the motor (still na though) and I have a custom fabbed intake manifold. If you want a somewhat production intake manifold with a somewhat production price... I would suggest a jg intake manifold. They make some good power because they make you the manifold for your setup, either na or turbo.

 

I didnt look into what mods you have, but i wouldnt touch the im unless i had a narly all motor build or a turbo setup running with lots of boost.

 

wat about bore the crap out of the stock IM and bore out the tb, is that better than skunk2 im?

 

theres been a couple threads on this. FAQs has articles about the skank2 and the euro-r. and i thought there was a thread called "have we come to a conclusion..." or something like that about the stock manifolds.

 

soo which one was better? euro-R one? or the skunk2? lol u said skank2.. haha

 

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You can't just bore out the IM & TB and nothing else, or I wouldn't think.. You would have to do the same to the intake ports on the Cly. Head also I would think.

 

^^^^ yea of course, but i mean like juss comparin the intake along wit basic bolt on i/h/e, or w/o any mod, juss the intake along, wouldnt the h22a IM better in hp gain, after bore out the IM and TB ??? juss wonderin

 

LOL.. soo which one is it.. yes or no on the skunk2 intake manifold? it can't really be that bad can it? im not boosting at all so i was thinking this would be a good NA IM.. im not just planning on having bolt ons.. im gonna go past that.. but im also not gonna boost.. and all the other IM out there for 5th gen are all made for boosting..

 

If you're really gung ho about getting an intake mani, I'd consider getting a modified OEM one from Blacktrax

http://www.blacktrax.net/BTP_H22_Man.html

They also have a kit that makes installing a Euro R mani less of a headache.

 

I was looking at the Blacktrax IM dyno chart in they're website and i guess they're okay.. but only +1-3 hp with all these mods and port and polish head w/ flat valves and HONDATA? i dont know.. but thats low to me.. the only significant gains on those blacktracks IM were the built H22s with their IM which had like +7hp gains.. one of them had +15 which was really good.. but i donno.. so no skunk2 then? i just dont understand lol.. i need an explanation of why skunk2 IM is bad.. or why not get it.. maybe i'm asking about Skunk2 too much is because i've seen them run on different 5th gen preludes and they all have nice HP gains.. and like i said i have as much mods as my friend but he has skunk2 intake manifold and i have stock.. and he beat me about 2 cars.. and i can tell his gains are on midrange because i can hang with him for a little bit then he leaves slowly.. soo yeah i just need explanation to WHY NOT Skunk2.. yeah blacktrax is good and all i guess but im not gonna be spending $300 something + my stock IM to send to them.. i need my car running soo i cant do that even if i had the money..

 

show me a dyno sheet of these nice gains please, i have yet to see one....

there is a whole thread on how the skunk2 mani is a flop.....its not a good manifold dude....i dont know if you want to get into flow dynamics or what, but just because someone makes it and you can pay money for it does not mean that its better....

 

all i said was i've seen them run well in a race.. and show you what dyno sheets on the nice gains? i never said i had a dyno sheet to prove that skunk2's good.. thats why i'm asking if they're good or not.. this whole time, all you're saying is they're not good because you saw it on some thread.. well i want explanation and how or why they aren't good.. and proof.. if you want to see some dyno sheet on some "nice gains" go to blacktracks.com and look at their dyno sheet.. which isnt really that impressive BUT considerably okay..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">show me a dyno sheet of these nice gains please, i have yet to see one....

there is a whole thread on how the skunk2 mani is a flop.....its not a good manifold dude....i dont know if you want to get into flow dynamics or what, but just because someone makes it and you can pay money for it does not mean that its better....</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't know what you're talking about.. skunk2? I never said anything about them being better because of their namebrand.. thats why i'm here asking.. like i said.. all the other IM out there are made for boosting.. so im asking what IM out there is good for NA.. blacktrax is one pretty okay IM.. so now i need explanation how skunk2's not good like you were saying.. and I can't seem to find that thread you're talking about..