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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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ello, sorry to bother you again but i have another question, can you check http://photos.yahoo.com/markski037 and click on my honda 2, and tell me wut i should i call these things? those are the bolts that are like in a rubber boot, when i was putting my suspension back together, the bolt just spins around inside the boot, together with the nut. so i kinda made a cut in the bolt with a grinder and held it with a screw driver and tightened the nut. i want to go to the junk yard tommorow in search of these three parts because they all just spin around. is it safe to drive like that or should i just leave the car in the drivway until i get that replaced??????? thanx so much
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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Dude... those are the ball joints.... and Yes.. and do spin... move.. and are supposed to be flexible, it's part of the suspension... it helps maintain the ride confortable, stable and reliable.
New ball joints start at 60 dollars up....and that's for each one. I had to buy 2 of these a few months ago and could not believe on the price.

If they are still good and the rubber is not cracked or destroyed... you can still use it!
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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and im not talking about the cv joins. . .
then then why the bolt was spinning when i was trying to put the nut on??? it didnt spin when i was taking off the nuts. . . i did notice that that piece of bolt was flexible and moving around in all directions but it was actually spinning in place when trying to bolt it up. . .HELP
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Are they looking really beat up to you (in your point of view)... ...if not... ....try to re use them!
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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i did im bout to put the wheels on back again and drive around, but my brother is scaring me that there is a possibility of my wheel snapping/falling off , causing even more damage to my suspensin


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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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No... the wheel is not going to fall off.... ...let me know.... does it feel any different than before?
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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k im gonna knoe tommorow when i drive to work. . . thanx
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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k i drove the car today, and wut i noticed was when ever i accelerated the car wobbled/shook like crazy, anyone knows wut might be the problem??? imma go to my family mechanic tommorow and make him fix it cuz im sick and tired of getting my hands all greased up and having no results
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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What you discribe can be caused by worn Tie Rod Ends (either inboard (steering rack end) or outboard (wheel knuckle end)). In effect, the tire/wheel can vibrate from side to side under certain conditions because they are worn.
I'm gonna look at your supplied link. You may have been asking about the same thing.
The picture ID'd as DSC00006 is an upper ball joint.
The picture ID'd as DSC00005 is (again) the Upper Ball Joint and the Outer Tie Rod End (Joint) - which I've discussed.
When they are new, they (The Stud) WILL NOT spin in it's housing. The Ball/Stud piece is spring loaded in it's housing. This is to keep it tight during it's usable life. If it spins, it's time to entertain replacing them.


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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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but that didnt happen before my old cv went out, its taht i just put in my new one and it happens now, and its not just shaking lighty, its shaking very hard that i feel like going over a million potholes all at once when accelerating but from side to side instead of up and down
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Here's a link to illustrations you should find interesting
Knuckle detail, including Upper (#10) and lower ball Joints (#4)
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...UCKLE

Steering Rack Detail:
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...R+BOX

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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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thanx
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 04:40 AM
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Upper and Lower balljoint and outer tie rod.

The proper way to check for play in balljoints is not by looking for cracked boots. Grab a tire iron with load off the suspension and push up on the tire from underneath and watch the joints. If there is play they need replacement.

94-97 Accords have a Safety recall on lower balljoints. You can get them replaced for free through the dealer.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 05:02 AM
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Upper and Lower balljoint and outer tie rod!!!!!!
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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When you are trying to tighten the castle nuts, and the bolt keep spinning you just need to press the ball joint into the trailing arm or the steering knuckle, it will put enough pressure on so that when you keep tightening it will eventually be able to be tightened, if i'm understanding your situation, sounds like you were unable to tighten the bolts sufficiently.

Also now that you have driven on it, the ball joints (at least the ones on the bottom should be sufficiently pressed in so that you can tighten them properly now.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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thanks for the advice, i couldnt tighten the castle nuts so i took a grinder, made a cut in the bolt, put a screw driver in it and tightened the bolt. i didnt see any other way of tightening those bolts
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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hello again. . . im just wondering that the shaking is an outcome of a bent axle that i picked up from autozone ?????
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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The bent axle in itself is enough of an issue unto itself to warrant talking to Autozone, but it shouldn't contribute much (if anything) to a shaking condition.
My reasoning?
The axle, by it's design and it's location in the center of rotation, doesn't present enough rotational mass to cause a shake condition.
You're more likely to see a shake from a bent rim, a broken tire Belt or a tire that's laterally out of balance.

Confirm the Belt Axle theory and open a discussion with AutoZone. If it's bent, they should pay to have it replaced.
But continue to look elsewhere for your shake.

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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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no pics for me
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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I have replaced bent axles at my shop which cause a huge shake especially on acceleration at anything over 30 mph. Not very uncommon. The most recent one I did was a Ford Taurus and a DEA agent owns it.
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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' Had one on an '88 and did'nt realize it for over a year. When pointed out, I knew immediately what had happened.
I was treated to a Ham-Fisted AAA Flatbed operator during a Battery road call. He hooked the tie down chains to the easiest point and pulled everything taught with the winch. Guess what he hooked for the tie-down........

I guess anythings' possible, but I haven't seen it on these units.

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