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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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im thinking of going with Buddy Club N+ cause of the cost $850 can i get some feedback about them going on and eg(92-95) civic
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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In my opinion, as well as many other's opinions on this board, you would be better off getting Koni Yellow sport shocks with off-the-shelf rate Ground Control coilovers for $809 (It's $849 with custom rates) versus paying $850 for the buddy clubs, which are nothing special comapred to the proven-in-many-races Koni/GC setup.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisw85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In my opinion, as well as many other's opinions on this board, you would be better off getting Koni Yellow sport shocks with off-the-shelf rate Ground Control coilovers for $809 (It's $849 with custom rates) versus paying $850 for the buddy clubs, which are nothing special comapred to the proven-in-many-races Koni/GC setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>No way. Re-valved Koni's are the way to go. The off the shelf ones can't handle anything above 10k spring rates. Get off the HT bandwagon and speak from experience.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChopSuey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No way. Re-valved Koni's are the way to go. The off the shelf ones can't handle anything above 10k spring rates. Get off the HT bandwagon and speak from experience.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The SPSS valved Konis are about $1025 for a set, plus about $225 for springs, youre looking at about $1250 for the set.

For the same price as those buddy clubs, which is about $850, he would be better off getting the Koni/GC combo. Comparing strictly the Koni/GC and the buddy clubs, the Koni/GC would perform better, and of course the SPSS valved Konis would handle better than either.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2DoorBandit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im thinking of going with Buddy Club N+ cause of the cost $850 can i get some feedback about them going on and eg(92-95) civic</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'd say go with the D2 coilovers for 750 or the Ksports..i've heard nothing but good things about both of them...both have 36 way adj damper...(correct me if im wrong) i almost got either two but gota good deal on the GC and kyb adj...
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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myself have been checking online looking for any reviews on the BC N+ Spec coilover and nothing.. I will say that if the company like BC creates good quality coilovers,

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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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I've talked to someone about the coilovers and they personally said that they loved them... however i have no facts on them at the time as he no longer has his DA that he had the n+ coils on. At the time I am waiting on a reply from Buddy Club to my e-mail i sent them for facts on the coilovers as i am interested in them too, if i dont hear anything back tomorrow i'll be giving them a call and i'll be sure to post some facts(spring rates, how low they go, etc.) straight from buddy club about the coils.


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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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I just got off the phone w/ Buddy Club and here's what i learned...

- 12k front and 6k rear spring rates

- 0(high)-3in(low)

- 15 way adjustable +4kg/mm hardest setting and -4kg/mm sofetest setting
(i ask him if they click w/ each adjustment but didnt understand his responce.. he spoke very quickly, lol)

i'm not sure i understand why they would use that combo of spring rates... can anyone w/ a better understanding of rates and how they work explain this to me?


Modified by Ruthless EF8 at 2:41 PM 12/7/2005
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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i think the reason they might not have gone any stiffer in the rear with a higher spring rate, due to the fact that ost people are beefing up the rear sway bar ... i mean if u look at a car with a 23mm + rear sway and a rear spring rate of 8 or 10k +. i think that rear of the car is going to be a little happy.. its a balance i would think but could be wrong...
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ruthless DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just got off the phone w/ Buddy Club and here's what i learned...

- 12k front and 6k rear spring rates

- 0(high)-3in(low)

- 15 way adjustable +4kg/mm hardest setting and -4kg/mm sofetest setting
(i ask him if they click w/ each adjustment but didnt understand his responce.. he spoke very quickly, lol)

i'm not sure i understand why they would use that combo of spring rates... can anyone w/ a better understanding of rates and how they work explain this to me?


Modified by Ruthless EF8 at 2:41 PM 12/7/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>
It has very little to do with what the assume people will use as a rear bar. The spring rate combo emphasizes the car's tendency to understeer, and might work better with a staggered tire setup and some slightly unorthodox driving techniques. It also provides relatively comfortable ride quality on the street.
Its 15 levels or adjustability, nobody has 15 ways of adjustability.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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yeah ots konis are alil soft,

but they're PERFECT for a street car(great handling but comfy ride)

they don't however have separate adjustment for stroke/preload.. which buddyclubs do..
and are not a complete coilover (for ease of installation)

once you get revalved and gc uppper mounts to make it a complete coilover.. ur way past the price of the buddyclubs...
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