"B" OR "H"?
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I HAVE BOTH A GSR SETUP AND A H22 MOTOR IN MY GARAGE.I WANT TO BUILD A POWER ALL MOTOR SETUP FOR MY 95 COUPE,BUT WHICH MOTOR WOULD BE BETTER?THE H MOTOR NATURALLY MAKES MORE POWER AND TORQUE,BUT WOULD THE B MOTOR BE BETTER.NEED ADVICE!!THANKS!!
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BONE STOCK B16 BEATING A LUDE MOTOR? SOMEBODY DOESNT KNOW HOW TO DRIVE!!IS THAT YOUR SETUP LISTED BELOW? THATS PRETTY GOOD!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RudeBwaiSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sell and get "K"</TD></TR></TABLE>
I vote this as well. Sell the h22 and GSR for a k-series
I vote this as well. Sell the h22 and GSR for a k-series
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Have had both, and for a daily driver the H is allot better in my opinion cause you can just cruise it. As far a power stock vs stock depending on if they are JDM or USDM the B will make anywhere from 145whp-160's the H will make from 145-175 ish. It will vary depending on application. H series has the axle issue that the B doesnt have and the transmission on the B to me seems to be alittle better. Shifts a little smother and doesnt seem to mind the Higher RPM shifting as much. A GSR with all the goodies as far as bolts on' would make as much as high 180's tuned and the H in the 190's no problem. I would say which every motor has the LSD or is in better condition would be the way to go the swaps will end up costing about the same. Both have allot of potential but the H can make more power with basic bolt ons for sure !! Hope this helped if not the i just wasted a minute typing lol !!
K's suck. all they have going for them is VTC, but that can't hardly keep up with a highly modified n/a setup
b's are great all around
but....h with a b-series tranny is DEFF the way to go. Send the head off ot RLZ to get a stage 1 port job...and you'll flow more than a K head.
b's are great all around
but....h with a b-series tranny is DEFF the way to go. Send the head off ot RLZ to get a stage 1 port job...and you'll flow more than a K head.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">K's suck. all they have going for them is VTC, but that can't hardly keep up with a highly modified n/a setup
b's are great all around
but....h with a b-series tranny is DEFF the way to go. Send the head off ot RLZ to get a stage 1 port job...and you'll flow more than a K head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
K-series motors suck? Dude a stock k20a2 will put down 220whp/160wtq with I/H/E and tuning. You won't get that much power/torque with a stock h-series or b-series with just a I/H/E and tuning. K-series has a lot more potential.
b's are great all around
but....h with a b-series tranny is DEFF the way to go. Send the head off ot RLZ to get a stage 1 port job...and you'll flow more than a K head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
K-series motors suck? Dude a stock k20a2 will put down 220whp/160wtq with I/H/E and tuning. You won't get that much power/torque with a stock h-series or b-series with just a I/H/E and tuning. K-series has a lot more potential.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flying turtle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've seen stock b16 swapped civics beat jdm h22 swapped civics...
you decide what you want.</TD></TR></TABLE>
BS by far. Unless the driver sucked ***.
you decide what you want.</TD></TR></TABLE>
BS by far. Unless the driver sucked ***.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">K's suck. all they have going for them is VTC, but that can't hardly keep up with a highly modified n/a setup
b's are great all around
but....h with a b-series tranny is DEFF the way to go. Send the head off ot RLZ to get a stage 1 port job...and you'll flow more than a K head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
K's suck?
Ok, you tell me where you can gain 30+ HP just on I/H/E and tuned ecu.
I guarentee the K series will take B and H series every time.
b's are great all around
but....h with a b-series tranny is DEFF the way to go. Send the head off ot RLZ to get a stage 1 port job...and you'll flow more than a K head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
K's suck?
Ok, you tell me where you can gain 30+ HP just on I/H/E and tuned ecu.
I guarentee the K series will take B and H series every time.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poison »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">K's suck?
Ok, you tell me where you can gain 30+ HP just on I/H/E and tuned ecu.
I guarentee the K series will take B and H series every time. </TD></TR></TABLE>
ha
so, what makes a k better? the d-series bearings? the shithole trannies?
like i siad...their biggest thing (besides displacement) is VTC...big ******* whoop.
the H series head will flow just as much as a k head wiht a simple valve job. H's are cheaper and more plentiful. Slap a b series tranny on it...and then go side to side with any stock k20 swap and see what happens
Ok, you tell me where you can gain 30+ HP just on I/H/E and tuned ecu.
I guarentee the K series will take B and H series every time. </TD></TR></TABLE>
ha
so, what makes a k better? the d-series bearings? the shithole trannies?
like i siad...their biggest thing (besides displacement) is VTC...big ******* whoop.
the H series head will flow just as much as a k head wiht a simple valve job. H's are cheaper and more plentiful. Slap a b series tranny on it...and then go side to side with any stock k20 swap and see what happens
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2k.civic.si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">k>b>h </TD></TR></TABLE>
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ha
so, what makes a k better? the d-series bearings? the shithole trannies?
like i siad...their biggest thing (besides displacement) is VTC...big ******* whoop.
the H series head will flow just as much as a k head wiht a simple valve job. H's are cheaper and more plentiful. Slap a b series tranny on it...and then go side to side with any stock k20 swap and see what happens</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think it'll take more than a valve job to make up 20 or so horses the K has over the H and B. You're comparing parts not numbers... that's rediculous. So what if the bearings and trannies suck in your opinion? The truth is in the numbers. The K makes more torque and HP on every level of modification.
ha
so, what makes a k better? the d-series bearings? the shithole trannies?
like i siad...their biggest thing (besides displacement) is VTC...big ******* whoop.
the H series head will flow just as much as a k head wiht a simple valve job. H's are cheaper and more plentiful. Slap a b series tranny on it...and then go side to side with any stock k20 swap and see what happens</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think it'll take more than a valve job to make up 20 or so horses the K has over the H and B. You're comparing parts not numbers... that's rediculous. So what if the bearings and trannies suck in your opinion? The truth is in the numbers. The K makes more torque and HP on every level of modification.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Televator »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think it'll take more than a valve job to make up 20 or so horses the K has over the H and B. You're comparing parts not numbers... that's rediculous. So what if the bearings and trannies suck in your opinion? The truth is in the numbers. The K makes more torque and HP on every level of modification. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i wasn't comparing HP or parts you idiot. I was comparing HEAD ******* FLOW.
you get an RLZ valve job on an H22 head...you flow 300cfm, simple as that.
i wasn't comparing HP or parts you idiot. I was comparing HEAD ******* FLOW.
you get an RLZ valve job on an H22 head...you flow 300cfm, simple as that.



