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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Would someon be willing to fab me up a catch can like the one pictured w/ a filter on the top? I will be running a ventilation system identical to the one pictured as well. I'm not 100% sure how it's mounted to the car but it will be on my 93 hatch so maybe you can think of something lol.

Oh and is there a possibility of someone welding the fittings on the valvecover too?

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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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I can't make you one, but that **** is def pimp
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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That tank is not worth having someone fab up. Its just an aluminum catch can from a place liek Summit or Jegs. They are like $40. As far as the fittings go...I could probably work something with you. Email me is you are interested: curleyscustomfab@comcast.net
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P.S. I could possibly do th valve cover as well....just let me know if you are interested.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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That **** looks awesome, looks alot easier to instal aswell instead of using the back of the block.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 03:46 AM
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Please explain to me why people spend $200 on those fittings when the crank case isnt even pressurized beyond 1psi.

Not mocking your setup/ It looks hella nice
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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Its all about pride in the look of your equipment. I used all steel braided line and 4 AN fittings when I took the power steering out of my old Integra. Cost me about $60 for everything, but there was NO WAY a piece of rubber hose and a hose clamp was going on it!
Again...LSEGHATCH, I can work a deal out with you if you want me to fab it for you.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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help this guy out....bumps for a badass oil catch can
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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that catchcan makes the endyne one looks bad, looks pimp! I love those ss lines.
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 03:50 AM
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it that can vented through the holes show at the top?
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 04:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That **** looks awesome, looks alot easier to instal aswell instead of using the back of the block.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Some people do both the back of the block and the valve cover. Some just do the block, but IMO it's a bad idea to do just the valve cover and not the block. Reason is the block is more important when it comes to which one you have to evacuate pressure from.

LSEGHATCH,

If you cant find someone to fab one up for you, you should take a look at summitracing.com and search for MOR-85470. This can is identical to the Endyn can except it only has one 3/8" port on the side and a 3/8" port on the bottom. You'll only be able to run one line, but it will still look pretty clean.

From there you can do one of the following:

#1 for SS line
AER-FBM2185 screw the 3/8 NPT into the can I mentioned above
AER-FBM1014 -10 AN straight hose end screws onto the can
AER-FBM4034 -10 AN 90 degree goes to valve cover
EAR-997110ERL -10 AN aluminum weld on fitting
EAR-992910ERL -10 AN cap if you wanna remove the line and cap off the fitting on the valve cover

#2 if you wanna be able to screw the line directly to the tank
EAR-820106ERL get this part instead of AER-FBM2185, the first one I listed in setup #1.

#3 if you wanna use clear vinyl reinforce hose instead of SS line
[url=http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/aer-fbm1512_w.jpg]AER-FBM1512] use this instead of the straight hose end in setup #1
AER-FBM1532 use this instead of the 90 degree hose end in setup #1
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blueoval557 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That tank is not worth having someone fab up. Its just an aluminum catch can from a place liek Summit or Jegs. They are like $40. As far as the fittings go...I could probably work something with you. Email me is you are interested: curleyscustomfab@comcast.net
Kyle
P.S. I could possibly do th valve cover as well....just let me know if you are interested.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry but you are wrong...... that is a custom catch can made by mr john on HT. he work at Sportcar Motion.......
If someone is interested in a custom catch can i am sure he will help you out....
HERE IS ANOTHER CATCH CAN HE MADE FOR A EK...



Modified by .1type. at 12:30 PM 10/30/2005
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Old Oct 30, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

thats **** bro
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Formula Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Please explain to me why people spend $200 on those fittings when the crank case isnt even pressurized beyond 1psi.

Not mocking your setup/ It looks hella nice</TD></TR></TABLE>

your kidding right?

and to those who think the head sees different pressure than the block you guys are crazy, i dont know if you have looked lately but the block and head are connected

on the motor pictured the pcv and catch can on the back of the block are plugged and the two -10 lines on the valve cover supply more than enough ventilation for the 30 plus psi the motor sees. just remember your piston rings arent a total seal, plenty of gas and boost gets past those rings under high boost pressures.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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This is awesome but it looks like a PITA to emty the catch can. I used the endyn can for awhile and hooked it up to the back of the block and wast VERY happy with it.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Formula Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Please explain to me why people spend $200 on those fittings when the crank case isnt even pressurized beyond 1psi.

Not mocking your setup/ It looks hella nice</TD></TR></TABLE>

Look into some of the setup GM guys are running, if you ventilate the engine properly, I have actually seen gains of 15hp just from venting.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .1type. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

sorry but you are wrong...... that is a custom catch can made by mr john on HT. he work at Sportcar Motion.......</TD></TR></TABLE>

can you explain what makes it catch oil better than the $40 ones?
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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nothing makes it better, just nicer

another one i did..


and another..



Modified by mr john at 1:36 PM 10/31/2005
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSEGHATCH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

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why the hell is there two lines from the valve cover to the "catch can"???
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

why the hell is there two lines from the valve cover to the "catch can"???</TD></TR></TABLE>

should there be three?

ive never seen three before
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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the more vents on the motor the better for crankcase ventilation.

I run the setup just like in the pic and ALSO one port on the back of the block to another catch can of its own.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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because 2 is redundant.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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2 will flow more than one. Alot of people have no idea how much air there is trying to come out of the breather. On a high hp high boost car, 2 -10's still really isn't enough.
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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i really doubt that.

its air pressure relief. not fluid flow.

but whatever. believe what you want. im fine with disagreeing.

but then was the crankcase (leading to the stock PCV) plugged as well?
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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My bad on saying it was a Summit one. My apologies to mr. john, although summit sells one VERY similar.
As far as the crankcase breather and all that...although it is off topic of the thread...I somewhat agree with Tyson. Its not like these things are under tons of pressure, its just an escape for air pressure. Think of it as "drizzling" out...its not like its totally forced out by some internal component. If this was the case, it would be mandatory to have them on all new cars. As stated, the place to put the evac lines is in the block, under the pistons/rods/crank. This is where the pressure is actually made from the pistons goings up and down. Yes, it will eventually makes it way to the top of the motor(valvetrain area), it is always better to pull a bad thing from its source, not from where it goes after time...
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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Fortunately for me, i have datalogs to back up my claims. How much crankcase pressure do you think there is on a 700hp B series with the factory breather provisions open to a tank?
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