Austrian Type R: This guy has your number!
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Austrian Type R: This guy has your number!
http://www.carpi.ch/Video/red_devil_04_15mb.wmv
Holy shiat this car is fast.
(there is a Type R in the video - so that's how this thread is Type R related btw)
Looks like the same race facility as the vids posted by Austrian Type R.
Gotta love 580 hp!
Holy shiat this car is fast.
(there is a Type R in the video - so that's how this thread is Type R related btw)
Looks like the same race facility as the vids posted by Austrian Type R.
Gotta love 580 hp!
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (Marlon88)
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (Big Phat R)
WHoa!!! That car is quick...
Anybody notice that the vid seems to be sped up a bit? Part right when he passed the TVR and the Golf...and while entering the turn you can hear his voice. Sounds like a chipmunk. Dunno know if that means anything.
Nice vid.
Anybody notice that the vid seems to be sped up a bit? Part right when he passed the TVR and the Golf...and while entering the turn you can hear his voice. Sounds like a chipmunk. Dunno know if that means anything.
Nice vid.
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (Big Phat R)
That's a fast car for sure.
And you really gotta give props to these Euro track days. No point-bys with the finger or any let by zones, based on videos I've seen. These people are all good enough drivers that it seems the passer and the passee all know how to coordinate and when to make it happen in a safe manner.
In comparison, all the track days I've attended around here are way too restrictive.
And you really gotta give props to these Euro track days. No point-bys with the finger or any let by zones, based on videos I've seen. These people are all good enough drivers that it seems the passer and the passee all know how to coordinate and when to make it happen in a safe manner.
In comparison, all the track days I've attended around here are way too restrictive.
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (C-speed Racer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C-speed Racer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anybody notice that the vid seems to be sped up a bit? Part right when he passed the TVR and the Golf...and while entering the turn you can hear his voice. Sounds like a chipmunk. Dunno know if that means anything.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It does look soemwhat sped up, especially when passing the 911. Still impressive regaurdless
It does look soemwhat sped up, especially when passing the 911. Still impressive regaurdless
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (Big Phat R)
I found some 2005 footage from Hockenheim on the carpi.com website:
http://www.carpi.ch/Video/reddevil_part2_30mb.wmv
Looks like they have installed a sequential gearbox now.
And a short dyno vid:
http://www.carpi.ch/Video/pruefstand_8mb.wmv
Looks like these guys are hardcore
http://www.carpi.ch/Video/reddevil_part2_30mb.wmv
Looks like they have installed a sequential gearbox now.
And a short dyno vid:
http://www.carpi.ch/Video/pruefstand_8mb.wmv
Looks like these guys are hardcore
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (Slick GS-R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slick GS-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It looks like this guy is passing Austrian Type R in the video!</TD></TR></TABLE>
That R had the stock wing, Austrian has the giant 3 peice M00gen wing.
But IMO its nice and all but the power he just lays down in the straights. I'm just not the fan of these omg huge horsepower so fast! cars. Plus speeding up the video... lame, obvious theyre trying to impress
That R had the stock wing, Austrian has the giant 3 peice M00gen wing.
But IMO its nice and all but the power he just lays down in the straights. I'm just not the fan of these omg huge horsepower so fast! cars. Plus speeding up the video... lame, obvious theyre trying to impress
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (Big Phat R)
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Looks like they have installed a sequential gearbox now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that was my favorite part... any idea how we can get a sequential box in our cars?
Looks like they have installed a sequential gearbox now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that was my favorite part... any idea how we can get a sequential box in our cars?
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (Rodney)
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that was my favorite part... any idea how we can get a sequential box in our cars?</TD></TR></TABLE>
a few companies make them
that was my favorite part... any idea how we can get a sequential box in our cars?</TD></TR></TABLE>
a few companies make them
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (Erik95LS)
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wow.... thanks for clearing that up.
anything that remotely bolts in for less then 10 grand? the quaife is 25k+ and it doesn't bolt in.
wow.... thanks for clearing that up.
anything that remotely bolts in for less then 10 grand? the quaife is 25k+ and it doesn't bolt in.
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (fso_BamBam)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fso_BamBam »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In comparison, all the track days I've attended around here are way too restrictive.</TD></TR></TABLE>
NASA Virginia (now calling itself NASA Mid Atlantic) pioneered the idea that advanced groups of drivers might be trusted to pass anywhere on a track, but with a point.
Right now, in NASA Group 3 and 4 in the areas frequented by the Virginia director you can pass anywhere with a point and it works out pretty well. There can be an occasional difficulty if someone is quite a bit faster and also a hot shoe, which might bring a reminder either in person or generally in a meeting that it is a driver education event and not a race, and that the person in front of you is in control of whether or not it's safe for you to pass.
Nonetheless, passing anywhere on the track does add an interesting dimension and gives the drivers a much better and much greater appreciation of what the course actually is about and how the vehicles will behave when engaged in stressful situations off the line. Very useful stuff.
So if you are after that kind of thing, you might look up your local NASA region to see if it's one of the regions that allows its Group 3 and/or Group 4 drivers to pass anywhere on the track.
In Virginia, Group 3 is "Advanced" and Group 4 is instructors. In some regions Group 3 is sort of a higher intermediate group and Group 4 will be "Advanced" and instructors together.
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... any idea how we can get a sequential box in our cars?</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you're thinking about that kind of thing, you might want to think about maybe switching platforms. We don't drive the right kind of car to put a squential in cheaply, and the logical racing series for which you'd be developing would not allow it, anyway.
Sequential gearboxes are in another league completely...expensive stuff....
NASA Virginia (now calling itself NASA Mid Atlantic) pioneered the idea that advanced groups of drivers might be trusted to pass anywhere on a track, but with a point.
Right now, in NASA Group 3 and 4 in the areas frequented by the Virginia director you can pass anywhere with a point and it works out pretty well. There can be an occasional difficulty if someone is quite a bit faster and also a hot shoe, which might bring a reminder either in person or generally in a meeting that it is a driver education event and not a race, and that the person in front of you is in control of whether or not it's safe for you to pass.
Nonetheless, passing anywhere on the track does add an interesting dimension and gives the drivers a much better and much greater appreciation of what the course actually is about and how the vehicles will behave when engaged in stressful situations off the line. Very useful stuff.
So if you are after that kind of thing, you might look up your local NASA region to see if it's one of the regions that allows its Group 3 and/or Group 4 drivers to pass anywhere on the track.
In Virginia, Group 3 is "Advanced" and Group 4 is instructors. In some regions Group 3 is sort of a higher intermediate group and Group 4 will be "Advanced" and instructors together.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rodney »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
... any idea how we can get a sequential box in our cars?</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you're thinking about that kind of thing, you might want to think about maybe switching platforms. We don't drive the right kind of car to put a squential in cheaply, and the logical racing series for which you'd be developing would not allow it, anyway.
Sequential gearboxes are in another league completely...expensive stuff....
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (George Knighton)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
NASA Virginia (now calling itself NASA Mid Atlantic) pioneered the idea that advanced groups of drivers might be trusted to pass anywhere on a track, but with a point.
Right now, in NASA Group 3 and 4 in the areas frequented by the Virginia director you can pass anywhere with a point and it works out pretty well. There can be an occasional difficulty if someone is quite a bit faster and also a hot shoe, which might bring a reminder either in person or generally in a meeting that it is a driver education event and not a race, and that the person in front of you is in control of whether or not it's safe for you to pass.
Nonetheless, passing anywhere on the track does add an interesting dimension and gives the drivers a much better and much greater appreciation of what the course actually is about and how the vehicles will behave when engaged in stressful situations off the line. Very useful stuff.
So if you are after that kind of thing, you might look up your local NASA region to see if it's one of the regions that allows its Group 3 and/or Group 4 drivers to pass anywhere on the track.
In Virginia, Group 3 is "Advanced" and Group 4 is instructors. In some regions Group 3 is sort of a higher intermediate group and Group 4 will be "Advanced" and instructors together.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Last year when I visited VIR with NASA-MA it was my first experience with open passing in turns, with a point bye in group 3, and both with and without a point and hot lap towing in group 4
It was a completely eye opening experience.
[Edited to be much clearer]
I have to admit I was skeptical boardering on nervous.
But after my first session and getting a hang of it, it felt extremely natural and soon I was in the mix getting passed and passing others "mostly getting passed I have to admit"
But WOW open passing makes it all not only flow so much more naturally/fluidly but a faster session as well.
I am a big proponant of open passing in more experienced groups. The answer I get when I suggest this concept for use on our tracks up North are either that the track is too dangerous for this (which a place like Watkin's Glen I can totally understand) to the track will not allow these methods for HPDE. Which is unfortunate because I feel it is yet another level of driving skill and experience that you learn and keep with you.
Another part of the "dimension" you mention Goerge that at least I noticed is that in open passing and hot towing you must rely completely on flag stations in blind sections of VIR full and be looking that much further ahead. Which I feel I benefitted by and is extremely important for driving in that next level.
Oh and the videos were pretty cool too
Modified by 1GreyTeg at 9:57 AM 10/28/2005
NASA Virginia (now calling itself NASA Mid Atlantic) pioneered the idea that advanced groups of drivers might be trusted to pass anywhere on a track, but with a point.
Right now, in NASA Group 3 and 4 in the areas frequented by the Virginia director you can pass anywhere with a point and it works out pretty well. There can be an occasional difficulty if someone is quite a bit faster and also a hot shoe, which might bring a reminder either in person or generally in a meeting that it is a driver education event and not a race, and that the person in front of you is in control of whether or not it's safe for you to pass.
Nonetheless, passing anywhere on the track does add an interesting dimension and gives the drivers a much better and much greater appreciation of what the course actually is about and how the vehicles will behave when engaged in stressful situations off the line. Very useful stuff.
So if you are after that kind of thing, you might look up your local NASA region to see if it's one of the regions that allows its Group 3 and/or Group 4 drivers to pass anywhere on the track.
In Virginia, Group 3 is "Advanced" and Group 4 is instructors. In some regions Group 3 is sort of a higher intermediate group and Group 4 will be "Advanced" and instructors together.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Last year when I visited VIR with NASA-MA it was my first experience with open passing in turns, with a point bye in group 3, and both with and without a point and hot lap towing in group 4
It was a completely eye opening experience.[Edited to be much clearer]
I have to admit I was skeptical boardering on nervous.
But after my first session and getting a hang of it, it felt extremely natural and soon I was in the mix getting passed and passing others "mostly getting passed I have to admit"
But WOW open passing makes it all not only flow so much more naturally/fluidly but a faster session as well.I am a big proponant of open passing in more experienced groups. The answer I get when I suggest this concept for use on our tracks up North are either that the track is too dangerous for this (which a place like Watkin's Glen I can totally understand) to the track will not allow these methods for HPDE. Which is unfortunate because I feel it is yet another level of driving skill and experience that you learn and keep with you.
Another part of the "dimension" you mention Goerge that at least I noticed is that in open passing and hot towing you must rely completely on flag stations in blind sections of VIR full and be looking that much further ahead. Which I feel I benefitted by and is extremely important for driving in that next level.
Oh and the videos were pretty cool too
Modified by 1GreyTeg at 9:57 AM 10/28/2005
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (George Knighton)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're thinking about that kind of thing, you might want to think about maybe switching platforms. We don't drive the right kind of car to put a squential in cheaply, and the logical racing series for which you'd be developing would not allow it, anyway.
Sequential gearboxes are in another league completely...expensive stuff....</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, i know they are not cheap, but i still want one. it is currently legal in my autox class, and the amount of times i shift it would be totally worth it to get one. swap platforms? bah.... i love my double wishbone honda, and will not leave it
Sequential gearboxes are in another league completely...expensive stuff....</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, i know they are not cheap, but i still want one. it is currently legal in my autox class, and the amount of times i shift it would be totally worth it to get one. swap platforms? bah.... i love my double wishbone honda, and will not leave it
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (Marlon88)
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Re: Austrian Type R: This guy has your number! (1GreyTeg)
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Yes, that can be interesting.
You learn to take the white flag and Red Cross flag very seriously.
NASA also allows the old fashioned SLOW DOWN hand signal so that the hot shoe closing on you at 20 miles per hour knows that you see something that he might not be aware of.
Yes, that can be interesting.
You learn to take the white flag and Red Cross flag very seriously.
NASA also allows the old fashioned SLOW DOWN hand signal so that the hot shoe closing on you at 20 miles per hour knows that you see something that he might not be aware of.