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- Per the SAC, the following previously published class change
proposals, effective 1/1/2006, are being recommended to the BOD:
- Audi TT (225hp, dual intercoolers) from BS to DS.
- Audi TT 3.2 V6 from BS to DS.
- BMW 330 with ZHP, all from BS to DS.
- Ford Mustang Cobra ('03 - '04) to F Stock
- Audi S4 V8 (04+) from AS to FS
- BMW M5 ('00-'03) from AS to FS
- Cadillac CTS-V from AS to FS
- Mercedes E55 AMG from AS to FS
- Toyota Celica GTS ('00+) from DS to GS
- Volkswagen Golf/Jetta/GLI 24V VR6 ('02+) from DS to GS
- Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V from DS to GS
- Acura RSX (Non-'S') from GS to HS
- Acura TSX from GS to HS
- Honda Civic Si ('02+) from GS to HS
- Hyundai Tiburon 6-cyl ('02+) from GS to HS
- Pontiac Vibe from GS to HS
- Saturn DOHC models from GS to HS
- Toyota Matrix (all) from GS to HS
- Civic Si ('99-'00) from GS to HS
- Mazda 3 (all) from GS to HS
- Nissan 200SX SE-R ('95+) from GS to HS

- Per the SAC, the following previouslypublished class change
proposals have been withdrawn:

- Camaro SS from AS to FS
- Firebird WS6 from AS to FS
- Mazda Mazdaspeed Protege from DS to GS
- Mazda MX-6 (all) from GS to HS
- Toyota Celica GT ('94-98) from GS to HS
- Toyota Celica ST ('94-98) from GS to HS
- Ford Probe (all) from GS to HS
- Porsche GT3 to Stock exclusion list
- 2005+ Mini S from GS to DS

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicSiRacer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">- BMW 330 with ZHP, all from BS to DS.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yikes.....

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w00t! lunchbox ownz j00!

 

I don't think the e46 ZHP is going to make THAT big of a difference in DS... at least, I don't think it's going to do to DS what the E90 3-series will with 275 steamrollers under the fenders. LOL.

Big german machinery in FS could be pretty comical. Maybe Tunnell needs to leave the motor in the M5 and NOT throw it in an E36 chassis. Instead win FS in a car that costs 4-5 times as much as any previous FS winner

 

HS looks like it may be interesting... I hope my new '06 Civic goes there!

 

Good God. H-stock (the slowest class) is populated with cars that *used* to be *D*-stock cars....

I can see a decent driver showing up in an Si and taking Fastest time stock at a local event....

 

Right now I'm trying to find someone to make a trade with. My STS 00 Civic Si for a completely stock (yeah right) 00 Civic Si. I would take off most of my parts but the suspension bushings was a super pain in the *** and don't ever want to deal with that ever again.

 

Man, HS is sure looking expensive.

&lt;-----is glad he is still in what could be the cheapest class to be competitive in, even if I'm still a couple seconds off the pace nationally.

 

Finally some cars might come close to the base Mini. Please Mr. Easter Bunny help me find a car so I don't have to run the Accord in HS next season.

 

Were any Improved Touring adjustments announced, or will that come later?

 

Glad I didn't mod myself into STS. Sweet move to HS for my car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WRXRacer111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think the e46 ZHP is going to make THAT big of a difference in DS... at least, I don't think it's going to do to DS what the E90 3-series will with 275 steamrollers under the fenders. LOL.


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I dunno... the E46 ZHP comes with 18x8F / 18x8.5R wheels. I'd be curious to see how much rubber can be stuffed under that? 285-30-18s in DS anyone? lol...

What wheels are on the e90 ZHP?

 

I'm honestly getting excited about 2006. Lee and the good folks at Koni need to make something for my car ASAP!

 

I think the 285/30 is going to be too much for 8" wheels, but I bet the 275/35 will worky

-Tom

 

Tony did you just buy a 06 Civic Ex? Or the 2006 Si?

 

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Believe an auto, not sure what trim level. (Definately not an Si.)

 

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- Per the SAC, the following previouslypublished class change
proposals have been withdrawn:
- 2005+ Mini S from GS to DS</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wounder how many people that pissed off.

 

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I wounder how many people that pissed off.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Everyone in GS that did not have an 05+ Mini Cooper S.


And HS would be a blast in a 99-00 Si. That car could topple a Mini on certain courses, without a doubt. The formula is already there as that chassis and car has been developed quite a bit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Track rat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Were any Improved Touring adjustments announced, or will that come later?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No IT changes. The only thing I saw was that the Type R's year eligibility in T2 has been extended to include 00-01. So now 97-01 is eligible in T2.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And HS would be a blast in a 99-00 Si. That car could topple a Mini on certain courses, without a doubt. The formula is already there as that chassis and car has been developed quite a bit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The only problem I see though is the wheel width issue. 99-00 Civic Si came with 15x6" wheels (UGH!). I think the Mini Cooper (base) you can get with 16s.

 

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The only problem I see though is the wheel width issue. 99-00 Civic Si came with 15x6" wheels (UGH!). I think the Mini Cooper (base) you can get with 16s.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That means you are limited to the 205/50/15 if you want to use the 710 tires since there is no way you would want to gear it up with the 225/50/15. They may be stuck with using Hoosiers especially if trying to run 225 front, 205 back.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mohudsolo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That means you are limited to the 205/50/15 if you want to use the 710 tires since there is no way you would want to gear it up with the 225/50/15. They may be stuck with using Hoosiers especially if trying to run 225 front, 205 back.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What?

I'd run the 225/50/15 V710 up front, without a doubt.

The 99-00 Si is gonna be the car to beat, by far.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicSiRacer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tony did you just buy a 06 Civic Ex? Or the 2006 Si?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I bought the 2006 Civic LX Coupe with a MANUAL.


Honestly, I was going to get the manual regardless, but I thought I'd ask for suggestions on what other people would do in my situation... My wife, as wonderful as she is, laid the guilt on pretty thick. But she came to understand that for autocrossing, a manual is better performing and ultimately, more reliable than an automatic (especially Honda automatics).

She said that since I will be using the new car for both daily driving and autocrossing (as the Civic and Accord are already sold), that I should buy what will make me happiest over the next decade.

Quick facts:

* Weight: 2650

* Steering ratio: 13.7:1 with much improved location and geometry.

* 140hp and 128tq apparently at the hubs using the new SAE standard, meaning 150-155hp and about 140tq at the flywheel.

* Improved motion ratios and geometry for the suspension, both front and rear.





Modified by honda93 at 10:41 PM 10/26/2005

 

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ME!

I'm willing to put money down that the people in charge do not drive in the lower stock classes, because they obviously don't give a ****. Otherwise they wouldn't be packing HS and GS with new, fast-ish cars. I'm relieved that the '02 Civic Si is going down to HS because it used to own GS!

To be competitive in stock, you have to have a new car. That sucks because it's turning Solo 2 into a rich man's sport.

Dan

 

i think the 99-00 si will dominate. especially with that b16 tranny, that gearing is perfect for autocross!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phateless &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think the 99-00 si will dominate. especially with that b16 tranny, that gearing is perfect for autocross!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just discovered that the curb weight for the 99-00 Si is listed at 2612lbs., meaning it sits around 2560 lbs. in stock class trim. My new car should be within 40# of that with a lot more torque and only slightly taller gearing than the S4C trans. especially with the 16x6.5" wheels and 225/50/16 V710's.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I all but guarantee myself 60+ mph in second.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudemanDan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm relieved that the '02 Civic Si is going down to HS because it used to own GS!

Dan</TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe locally, but I though the Celica GT and the Cooper S were the top dogs until the 2005 LSD-equipped Cooper S made it a one-horse race.