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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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Beware of crankcase pressure... I managed to blow out the plug for the front balance shaft due to it, which caused a big oil spill out the side of the block around the crank pully/timing belt (I almost wrecked, friend in a E36 put it in the wall because of it..) I would suggest using some honda-bond when you press them in (there probably is something better) and use the factory balance shaft seal retainer bracket to keep pressure on the plug. I did both and it didn't pop out again.

For the record, this was a re-used plug. I pressed it back out of a previous pump and pressed into another one so I may use a different pump housing.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda318dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Beware of crankcase pressure... I managed to blow out the plug for the front balance shaft due to it, which caused a big oil spill out the side of the block around the crank pully/timing belt (I almost wrecked, friend in a E36 put it in the wall because of it..) I would suggest using some honda-bond when you press them in (there probably is something better) and use the factory balance shaft seal retainer bracket to keep pressure on the plug. I did both and it didn't pop out again.

For the record, this was a re-used plug. I pressed it back out of a previous pump and pressed into another one so I may use a different pump housing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

when you eliminate the balaner shafts arn't you supposed to drill and tap some oil feeds down by near the girdle?

i saw a thread that earl did ? do you know what im talking aobut corey?
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Wow! How long did it last before popping out?

In for more info...
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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mines been working fine forever
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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As have mine...5 years and counting
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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Corey, it sounds like you have either too much leak, or not enough breather capacity. Is the engine fresh, or has it been run for a bit?

If the engine is fresh, the situation should get better as the engine breaks in. I'd do a leak down test to see where the numbers are.

If it's already broken in, I'd look into plumbing larger breathers and hose, or adding additional breathers.

An H2 ITR that runs here had his PVC valve pop off due to high crankcase pressure because he went out with a fresh engine.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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Sorry, I forgot I made this thread..

TO MAKE THIS CLEAR, I AM IN NO WAY KNOCKING THE PRODUCT, I THINK ITS EXCELLENT AND STAND BEHIND IT.

Yes, it is a fresh motor. Very good compression though..
Yes, all balance shafts ports were pluged.
I don't have an open enough breather IMO, so that could be a problem.

Reminder to those that have not had any problems, my car is a racecar that see's long periods of time at high rpms, and must run A LOT of oil to keep it from falling off high cam (yes, pan is baffled). More oil brings air pressure up as well.

There is a bracket that keeps the factory front balance shaft seal in place. I later found out that this was a recall/service bulliten to have that bracket installed in early F/H series engines. Later engines, it came standard. If that bracket wasn't there, it would actually blow the factory balance shaft seal out of the block and cause a big leak..
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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Corey, were you able to stop in time to save your motor?
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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Motor is fine, only lost about a quart..
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda318dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yes, all balance shafts ports were pluged.
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edit: this is the thread i ment : https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=987965
are you saying like the way earl pluged up his h build that he removed the balancer shafts and then tapped and pluged some of the oil galleys?
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If that bracket wasn't there, it would actually blow the factory balance shaft seal out of the block and cause a big leak..</TD></TR></TABLE>

been there done that. sucks ALOT!
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Well, yes, like that except I used Hondaddicts kit.. But yes, everything is pluged that should be..
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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I appreciate the heads up. Glad to hear your motor is OK.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda318dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, yes, like that except I used Hondaddicts kit.. But yes, everything is pluged that should be..</TD></TR></TABLE>

it had to been you crank case presure then and not oil presure, but the gaping hole in you block was a nice way out for what ever oil was in that area..

thanks for the indo corey!
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelittlelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it had to been you crank case presure then and not oil presure, but the gaping hole in you block was a nice way out for what ever oil was in that area..

thanks for the indo corey!</TD></TR></TABLE>

well yea, thats what I was getting to from the first post goof! not an oil pressure problem..
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