A little while ago I posted about how my right front omnipower camber kit broke into pieces: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1399612

Well, there has been an ungodly noise coming from my right front wheelwell and I thought it was the broken camber kit cuz come on, what else could it be? Well when I replaced the camber kit with a skunk2 one the noise continued, so I tried lots of different things like raising/lowering my coilovers, tightening/loosening bolts, and so on. Finally I noticed this:



The bushing between the lower part of the spring and upper collar ripped and is hanging out, so the bumping/squeking noise is coming from the spring hitting the collar over small bumps.

I guess bushings are not omnipowers strong suit...... haha

 

are you sure you didn't damage the bushing with the spanner wrench at some point? the hooks on those wrenches are pretty sharp. that being said, if the spring is preloaded at all, why do they need a bushing there?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by artifex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you sure you didn't damage the bushing with the spanner wrench at some point? the hooks on those wrenches are pretty sharp. that being said, if the spring is preloaded at all, why do they need a bushing there?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I'm fairly certain that I never damaged the bushing, I only adjusted the coilovers like 3 times and that was like a year ago when I installed them.

And I think that bushing needs to be there to keep from noise making and shifting and stuff, and they came like that so I'm not one to modify it.

 

the rubber bushing is there to prevent metal on metal corrosion.

rust = weakening of the spring

 

That's weird. you have the worst luck with anything. I notice when I put mine on. if you try to adjust them without loosening the top and doing the whole preload thing, I would notice that the bushing did get caught while trying to adjust the height.

pretty much what you do to higher and lower the height is loosen the top bolt and lower or higher the shock assy. and then preload and everything again. that way you avoid the ripped bushing. alot of coilovers have that bushing and I've seen many rip from bouncy suspensions and stuff like that, but shouldn't they not move when or if the suspesnion is preloaded?

 

My Buddy Clubs and Zeals (when I had them) never had a bushing like that. There was a small metal shim on top of the top perch that may have been aluminum to prevent that same corrosion issue.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My Buddy Clubs and Zeals (when I had them) never had a bushing like that. There was a small metal shim on top of the top perch that may have been aluminum to prevent that same corrosion issue.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Now I wish I spent the extra money and went with one of those ^ brands. Don't get me wrong, I love my suspension feel but omnipower is such a new company that things have got to go wrong for them to improve their ****..........

 

That's alright if you have a problem with your Omni suspension, I don't like them at all or have an ounce of faith in their reliability and quality.

 

damn, that sucks

 

i can never understand people who go with new products from companies like omnipower.

with honda's, especially EG's/EK's/DC's, there are so many proven products to choose from.

 

It's all about the cheapness, dude. 99% of HT consists of cheapskates or poor kids.

&lt;--- In that 99%, but won't settle for shitty products.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i can never understand people who go with new products from companies like omnipower.

with honda's, especially EG's/EK's/DC's, there are so many proven products to choose from. </TD></TR></TABLE>
1. Name all the "proven" coilovers in that price range?
2. Name the other "proven" suspension components you're talking about? Yes, they are out there, but not as many as you make it out to be. And at one point, every company was a new company. While each company probably starts out on different grounds, they nevertheless are starting out. Its up to the consumer to decide whether or not a new company and their products warrant the risk associated with purchasing a new, "unproven" product. People make these decisions based on the information available and the amount of research they do, as well as things like risk aversion and nameplate fanboi-ishness ("I only buy X-brand, because X-brand has the X-brand name").

 

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1. Name all the "proven" coilovers in that price range?
2. Name the other "proven" suspension components you're talking about? Yes, they are out there, but not as many as you make it out to be. And at one point, every company was a new company. While each company probably starts out on different grounds, they nevertheless are starting out. Its up to the consumer to decide whether or not a new company and their products warrant the risk associated with purchasing a new, "unproven" product. People make these decisions based on the information available and the amount of research they do, as well as things like risk aversion and nameplate fanboi-ishness ("I only buy X-brand, because X-brand has the X-brand name").</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ground Control/Koni

And you get what you pay for...that should be the end of this discussion. Omnipower products are relatively inexpensive and you are paying for that quality level. The next step up is a full coilover and its going to cost around 1000+ dollars. Most people who are serious about performance can save their money and put a quality suspension setup on their cars. For those who choose to go with a less expensive setup (ie omnipower) they'll continue to have issues like this.

I understand it sucks to have failure like this...but if i were running omnipower coilovers i'd EXPECT failure if i were pushing the car harder than 10 miles of easy highway driving every day. You might as well go with a set of extremely cheap EBAY coilovers and run decent shocks...i'm guessing you'd get close to the same performance level.

 

I have to defend omnipower in this case, even though they used crappy material for their bushings, they have new improved ones that they are sending me right now.

At least they have good customer service, with a little more time and research, I have a feeling that omnipower's gonna be a really good company. You gotta expect some things to go wrong with a new company, I still haven't lost faith in them because they fully back their products........bushings fail? here's some new redesigned bushings. camber kit broke? here's a new one, free of charge.......... I can't stand companies that have shitty customer service and don't give a **** about their customers.

And the reason for this thread was to warn people with the same coilovers so they don't have the same problem as me, not to bash omnipower. Overall, I love my suspension and still think I made the right decision in buying from them.

 

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Ground Control/Koni

And you get what you pay for...that should be the end of this discussion. Omnipower products are relatively inexpensive and you are paying for that quality level. The next step up is a full coilover and its going to cost around 1000+ dollars. Most people who are serious about performance can save their money and put a quality suspension setup on their cars. For those who choose to go with a less expensive setup (ie omnipower) they'll continue to have issues like this.

I understand it sucks to have failure like this...but if i were running omnipower coilovers i'd EXPECT failure if i were pushing the car harder than 10 miles of easy highway driving every day. You might as well go with a set of extremely cheap EBAY coilovers and run decent shocks...i'm guessing you'd get close to the same performance level. </TD></TR></TABLE>
So in reality, you do see that there aren't as many choices out there as you previously thought. What I'm addressing is the fact that choices out there for suspension parts are limited, another reason why people will be more eager to try a new product; it could be due to the fact that they are not satisfied with what the current market offers.
While expensive and inexpensive are relative terms, you should also understand that you don't always get what you pay for, and that works both ways. To only follow that principle when shopping for suspension products, you're setting yourself up for disappointment whether the product is expensive OR inexpensive. It may be a good rule of thumb to follow in other areas, but not necessarily so with things like coilovers.
Most people who are serious about performance know what they should be looking for out of their suspension, and will put what they know is good on their cars, and they would do that regardless of price.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So in reality, you do see that there aren't as many choices out there as you previously thought. What I'm addressing is the fact that choices out there for suspension parts are limited, another reason why people will be more eager to try a new product; it could be due to the fact that they are not satisfied with what the current market offers.
While expensive and inexpensive are relative terms, you should also understand that you don't always get what you pay for, and that works both ways. To only follow that principle when shopping for suspension products, you're setting yourself up for disappointment whether the product is expensive OR inexpensive. It may be a good rule of thumb to follow in other areas, but not necessarily so with things like coilovers.
Most people who are serious about performance know what they should be looking for out of their suspension, and will put what they know is good on their cars, and they would do that regardless of price.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think it has been well established over the past 5-6 years that ground control/koni's are the best suspension setup under 1000 dollars. Like i said before, i don't understand why people insist on trying new products when they are brand new to the market and cost the same as a proven suspension setup.

Maybe i'm not creative or willing to try new things...but i can tell you i've never purchased a product where i was unsure about its performance. I let other people spend money on unproven products that end up failing like omnipower's coilover setup. i'm glad they have good tech and customer support because they need it with the way their products have been failing.

 

While there is definitely a difference in price, I am not trying to take anything away from other products. I'm trying to explain why it is that other people may be willing to take the chances that you are not.

 

hmm..dont know owners problem or company problem

 

so wut kinda problems is there with there camber kits???? i just ordered a pair. i thought they were the same exact as skunk2 now im kinda scared

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohctodohc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so wut kinda problems is there with there camber kits???? i just ordered a pair. i thought they were the same exact as skunk2 now im kinda scared</TD></TR></TABLE>

their brushing falling apart. heard you could just weld them together??

 

does someone have a pic and some arrows so i can get them welded where they need to be

 

oh for god sake..its right down from this thread..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

o ok

 

if you adjusted the height of that lower spring perch, with preload on the spring, than that is probably why it ripped.

 

Welding the bushing might result in damage to the rubber part, I'm told.