Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

black buildup on spark plug threads?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 11:46 AM
  #1  
Civicse's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: tecumseh, ontario, canada
Default black buildup on spark plug threads?

I just replaced the spark plugs a week ago cause apperently the former owner never replaced them in 4 years, and i checked them today and there is a dry black buildup on the first 2 or 3 threads, contact points are still clean, the original spark plugs were white, and prolly about .06" of clearence between contact points so i'm assuming thats why they were getting so hot, could i b burning oil? oil level does look slightly lower than full, changed it about a month ago, also i noticed that if i rub my finger in my exhaust pipe at the back its all black
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 12:12 PM
  #2  
Civicse's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: tecumseh, ontario, canada
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (Civicse)

bump
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 12:13 PM
  #3  
xPhantomSolx's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
From: Athens, GA, USA
Default

seafoam your motor and see if that helps at all.. it's either gonna be carbon buildup or oil. Either way seafoam should help.
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 12:19 PM
  #4  
. O M E G A's Avatar
3rd g3aR vTak
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,145
Likes: 0
From: Hudson, NY, United States
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (Civicse)

Your burning oil . I'm sorry bro .
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 12:21 PM
  #5  
q45mm's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
From: Pa
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (Civicse)

Your burning oil very slowly. (posibility)
How many miles are on the car?
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 12:22 PM
  #6  
Civicse's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: tecumseh, ontario, canada
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (omega02379)

shitty thats what i thought, i guess i'll go do a comp test, i doubt i need seafoam, only 111,000 km's on it,
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 01:05 PM
  #7  
alotawatts's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 594
Likes: 0
From: Jet City
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (Civicse)

Sounds more like carbon to me - Dry/Black. I would bet you are tuned too rich.
I would also bet that Seafoam is not the fix.
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 01:44 PM
  #8  
Civicse's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: tecumseh, ontario, canada
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (alotawatts)

ya, i'm thinking its the ignition timing, just incase i'll check all sources, do a comp and leackdown test, but my money is on the ignition timing, when i had my tach in it always idled at 1000, supposed to be 750
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 02:47 PM
  #9  
Civicse's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: tecumseh, ontario, canada
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (Civicse)

any body have any more opinions on this before we put this thread to rest? sounds kinda of abnormal for a 2000 civic to b burning oil so early? from what i know the previous owner didn't have the oil changed regularly, i'll make sure i double check with honda though.
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 02:52 PM
  #10  
99blackcivicSi's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,532
Likes: 1
From: Alexandria, Va, USA
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (Civicse)

what motor do you have?

sounds like carbon to me, and can you post a pic? that will tell me for sure
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 02:55 PM
  #11  
JDM-97CX's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,621
Likes: 2
From: Beatin Up Bums, USA, USA
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (omega02379)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omega02379 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your burning oil . I'm sorry bro .</TD></TR></TABLE>


Way the helll wrong. If he was burning oil the plug would not be dry. There would be an oily sludge buildup on the plug.

He is running rich, that is all.

If you have access to any type of data logging hardware or a scan tool I would reccomend taking a look at o2 sensor data and long and short term fuel trim to see how much more fuel is being added.
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 03:06 PM
  #12  
Civicse's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: tecumseh, ontario, canada
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (JDM-97CX)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM-97CX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Way the helll wrong. If he was burning oil the plug would not be dry. There would be an oily sludge buildup on the plug.

He is running rich, that is all.

If you have access to any type of data logging hardware or a scan tool I would reccomend taking a look at o2 sensor data and long and short term fuel trim to see how much more fuel is being added.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i don't have any scanning tools, should i still check my timing and adjust idle though? and as for running rich can any shop with the proper tools fix this or is this something honda has to do? thanks
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 03:07 PM
  #13  
m00nr0ck Si's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,066
Likes: 2
From: BIG TX
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (JDM-97CX)

Quote, originally posted by omega02379 »
Your burning oil . I'm sorry bro .


Way the helll wrong. If he was burning oil the plug would not be dry. There would be an oily sludge buildup on the plug.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM-97CX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Way the helll wrong. If he was burning oil the plug would not be dry. There would be an oily sludge buildup on the plug.

He is running rich, that is all.

If you have access to any type of data logging hardware or a scan tool I would reccomend taking a look at o2 sensor data and long and short term fuel trim to see how much more fuel is being added.</TD></TR></TABLE>
this gets my vote , There not a whole lot of cars that dont have a little of the black inside the tip of the exaust , (dry black souty crap) and to the guy that automatically said your burnin' oil , your a frickin' idiot!!!!

Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 03:08 PM
  #14  
Civicse's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: tecumseh, ontario, canada
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (Civicse)

oh and for the black residue in my muffler tip, is that anything to worry about or just some carbon from running rich?
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 03:17 PM
  #15  
Civicse's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: tecumseh, ontario, canada
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (Civicse)

its a d16y7 by the way, i don't have pics but the black buildup is like baked on, doesn't come off just by brushing my finger on it,
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 07:20 PM
  #16  
.Ry's Avatar
.Ry
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,550
Likes: 0
From: I moved far away from cornz fieldz, IL
Default Re: black buildup on spark plug threads? (Civicse)

The black soot on your muffler is the same as whats on your plugs.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
nghtshd88
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
4
Mar 27, 2012 07:40 PM
be.twenty
Acura Integra
3
May 13, 2008 09:49 PM
ge_itr
Acura Integra Type-R
12
Dec 15, 2006 08:14 PM
Cractos
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
7
Nov 10, 2004 07:47 AM
lemongreenhatch
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
1
Aug 14, 2004 06:24 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:29 PM.