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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 05:51 PM
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nuff said, 2 liter is where its at.

Mike K's integra is I/H/E, topspeed head, VAFC

Mike M is I/H/E JUN 3's/topspeed head/ Skunk 2 ecu

just saying 2 liter is where its at
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 05:53 PM
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no replacement for displacement
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 05:58 PM
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Man, what is is like when all 3 of yall hang out.

Hi Mike, Hi Mike, Hi Mike
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 06:07 PM
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Nah, there is something wrong with the 1.8.
I got 181.7 Hp with stock cams, by just playing with the air/fuel ratio.
All I have is a Mugen head gasket, intake, header (GSR header 2.25 collector)
exhaust, and 66mm Throttle body.
The 1.8 with Jun III should be close to 200 wheel HP.
We'll be dynoing my friend's B18C5 with Jun III cams/spring/retainers, Hotshot header (3 inch collector) intake, exhaust and V-AFC.
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 06:14 PM
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Default Re: 2.0 liter vs 1.8 liter, Mike M's civic vs Mike K's Type R (Vegeta)

dood.. you are comparing apples to oranges... your postings make very little sense.
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 06:23 PM
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..... 66mm Throttle body.
what 66mm T/B are you using, just curious
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 06:27 PM
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I took a GSR TB and bored it out to 66mm.
I had a B16 TB that I bored out to 64 mm.
I do this at work, as a side job
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 06:29 PM
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I am just posting 2 b series motors both tuned by Mike K, not a direct comparrison,just showing how nice 2 liters are for the street thats all. sorry if by posting a DYNO chart for ***** and giggles offended you,lol

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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 06:50 PM
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really, cause i'm looking into buying a bored out T/B soon(either 64-65mm),
im me, let me know if you do any on the side,
let me know,
thanks
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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Then why does Mike K say its a 1.8??
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 07:25 PM
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Default Re: 2.0 liter vs 1.8 liter, Mike M's civic vs Mike K's Type R (Vegeta)

Mike K's integra is I/H/E, topspeed head, VAFC

Mike M is I/H/E JUN 3's/topspeed head/ Skunk 2 ecu

just saying 2 liter is where its at
Gee, you think maybe the Jun 3's gave the 2.0L some sort of power advantage?
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 07:34 PM
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the 2L had stock cams
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 07:43 PM
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Default Re: 2.0 liter vs 1.8 liter, Mike M's civic vs Mike K's Type R (sgT)

the 1.8 has the JUN cams
Sorry, but I don't live in FL and I don't know these cars by their owners' names...his title is listed as: "2.0 liter vs 1.8 liter, Mike M's civic vs Mike K's Type R" which clearly implies that the 2.0L is Mike M's Civic and the 1.8L is Mike K's Type R...
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 07:49 PM
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Default Re: 2.0 liter vs 1.8 liter, Mike M's civic vs Mike K's Type R (Bob#455)

I just saw what you wrote and you are right, unless both these guys have two
cars then its a typo.

But if you read this board with any regularity then you should know whose is whose.
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the 1.8 has the JUN cams

Sorry, but I don't live in FL and I don't know these cars by their owners' names...his title is listed as: "2.0 liter vs 1.8 liter, Mike M's civic vs Mike K's Type R" which clearly implies that the 2.0L is Mike M's Civic and the 1.8L is Mike K's Type R...
Neither does Steve. (live in fl that is)

BTW, Mike's integra is 1.8L I'm pretty sure and Mike M's civic is the 2L..

But Mike K's car doesn't have stock cams either does it?

-Dave, who is tired and confused.


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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 07:49 PM
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I think the 2.0L must have had the JUN cams and the SK2 ecu because if you look at how the 1.8L graph stops at 8200 (probably stock fuel cut) and the 2.0L is still making good power all the way to 8500, then it would definitely have to be the one with the ecu and cams.

But isn't that what Vegeta said at the beginning, Mike M 2.0L, Mike K 1.8L?
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 07:51 PM
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My mistake. Mistook Mike M for Mike D(vegeta)
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 07:53 PM
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All the damn Mike's are getting us all confused.
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 07:56 PM
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Default Re: 2.0 liter vs 1.8 liter, Mike M's civic vs Mike K's Type R (sgT)

But if you read this board with any regularity then you should know whose is whose.
I suppose, but with full time school and 40-50 hours of work a week, I haven't been on here much lately and obviously don't have time to memorize everyone's name, location, and specific setup including power output. Some things stand out, while others do not...
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 07:59 PM
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Neither does Steve. (live in fl that is)

BTW, Mike's integra is 1.8L I'm pretty sure and Mike M's civic is the 2L..

But Mike K's car doesn't have stock cams either does it?

-Dave, who is tired and confused.
I'm guessing he accidentally fudged up the names and the cars/mod lists. I hope this is the case because 180 WHP seems extremely shitty for an ITR with Jun 3's...
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 08:04 PM
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If i remember right, mike **K** said he had ITR cams in his 1.8L B20

But then again, im also tired and somewhat coming out of the confusion.
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 08:08 PM
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yeah it's confusing cause Mike K has a hybrid AND an ITR. The JunIII cams are def. in Mike M's car though. but yes...18Xwhp seems a little low for the $$ spent.
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 08:08 PM
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But then again, im also tired and somewhat coming out of the confusion.
So maybe we should all just agree to be confused until Vegeta comes on here and explains WTF he is talking about. Mike K or Mike M could help us find our way through the mess too.
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 08:17 PM
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Ummmmm... What was the point again? I fell asleep
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This thread gave me a headache.


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