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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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So i installed gc's with koni yellows and top hats as well. I finally got my car aligned and they said that my camber is to out of wack for my car to drive straight. The guy said that i could buy camber adjusters and that he would set it straight free of charge. My question is about the specs. I dont know what they mean.
Left front camber: actual -1.85, Before -0.93, Specified range -1.17 0.83

Fight front: Actual -0.87, Before -1.26, Specified range -1.177 0.83

Any help would be much appreciated
Also what plates fit the password jdm 3 point strut bar?
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Default Re: does anyone know how to read an alignment chart? (pny1981)

Well the numbers are most likely degrees, so -1.85 degrees, -.93 degrees, etc. So, its the amount that the top of the tire is tilted outwards/inwards vertically. Negative camber is the top of the tire tilted inwards, towards the center of the car, so with negative camber on both sides your tires would look like this from the front:
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And then of course positive camber would be the opposite.
As for them being too out of whack to drive straight, you made it to his shop just fine, didn't you? I think maybe your guy is exaggerating a little on the severity of your camber. While its not perfect, its not as bad enough to necessitate buying camber kits.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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I know that the pull is not that bad, but at speed it gets very annoying. I can switch lanes at 70 mph without moving the wheel. This is my main concern, second only to tire wear.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pny1981 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know that the pull is not that bad, but at speed it gets very annoying. I can switch lanes at 70 mph without moving the wheel. This is my main concern, second only to tire wear.
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That is not a camber issue, was this a 2 wheel or 4 wheel aligment?
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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Default Re: does anyone know how to read an alignment chart? (Solracer)

it was a four wheel at firestone. I bought the lifetime before i lowered my car. Oh and it took them over 3 hours to do absolutely nothing to my car. I am more than a little pissed off.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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Default Re: does anyone know how to read an alignment chart? (pny1981)

I don't quite understand how your left was worse after the alignment, unless im miss-reading it. Before he adjusted it, the camber was in spec. Afterwards though he through it out. Your right is fine.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pny1981 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Left front camber: actual -1.85, Before -0.93, Specified range -1.17 0.83

Fight front: Actual -0.87, Before -1.26, Specified range -1.177 0.83

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Actual, is what he set it to. Before is self explainatory. Specified range is what the allowable tolerance is. So your right is in, while left is out. What are you toe specs?

As for tire wear, the left is only going to wear a little faster than the right. But we need to see the toe to make an even better assesment on that.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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Left Front Toe: Actual 0.03, Before 0.06, Specified Range -0.08 0.08

Right Front Toe: Actual 0.02, Before 0.05, Specified Range -0.08 0.08

Thanks for all the help with this. I also have Cross Camber, Toe, and Caster specs if you think that will help.

When i go back, what should i say to get this problem fixed. The ******** tried to tell me it was my struts, eventhough they only have 150 miles on them. I am not an expert in this feild, but i am no idiot either.
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