All motors were dyno tested on the same dyno and the numbers are SAE corrected and smoothed out.

Blue is JDM ITR motor + I/H/E + BC3+ cams (11:1 CR)
Red is JDM ITR motor + I/H/E + Rocket m22x cams (11:1 CR)
Green is JDM ITR motor + I/H/E + Toda B cams (12:1 CR)
Purple is JDM ITR motor + I/H/E + ITR cams (11:1 CR)

 

interesting. are these all on the same motor, same bolt-ons & everything? of course except for the toda's since that motor is 12:1 CR.

 

What year ITR was it?? Stock cams just seems like a low #

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by strsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">interesting. are these all on the same motor, same bolt-ons & everything? of course except for the toda's since that motor is 12:1 CR.</TD></TR></TABLE>

BC3+ cams graph and m22x cams graph are the same '00 JDM ITR motor.
Toda B cams are on diffferent '00 JDM ITR with stock block and milled head.
Stock ITR cams are on a '99 JDM ITR.

Boltons are different for each motor but they are mostly high end parts.

 

Are the stock 99 ITR cams not the same as the CTR cams?

 

good stuff

 

how bout torque?

 

the tuning doesnt look to be great...

 

very nice

 

i think some more info should be provided....what exact mods were on each run etc.

there is no way the bc3+ will outperform the m22x that far down low......if it did, congratulations, hats off to Buddy Club but it's a little hard to believe

post all the mods for the motors....if they were in the exact same motor etc. i dont think the bc and the rocket dynos were from the same car .....just doesnt seem right


Dave

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Surubasi00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think some more info should be provided....what exact mods were on each run etc.

there is no way the bc3+ will outperform the m22x that far down low......if it did, congratulations, hats off to Buddy Club but it's a little hard to believe

post all the mods for the motors....if they were in the exact same motor etc. i dont think the bc and the rocket dynos were from the same car .....just doesnt seem right


Dave</TD></TR></TABLE>

The BC3+ and the M22x graph are the exact same motor with the exact same supporting mods. SMSP header, velocity stack intake, 2.5" exhaust, overbored ITR TB, AEBS IM, RC 310. Both tuned with hondata s200.

 

i know bc3 have v.gd mid range, but i would have expected the m22x's to do a lot better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Surubasi00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think some more info should be provided....what exact mods were on each run etc.

there is no way the bc3+ will outperform the m22x that far down low......if it did, congratulations, hats off to Buddy Club but it's a little hard to believe

post all the mods for the motors....if they were in the exact same motor etc. i dont think the bc and the rocket dynos were from the same car .....just doesnt seem right


Dave


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every motor is different. just because there was a 4 page thread on m22 vs. bc3+ and the majority picked m22's means absoultely nothing. for the simple fact that 98% of the people responding to the thread don't own either cam. they are just dick riding. i'm sure the m22's are a good cam, and should make more power on a wilder motor. but, the results speak for themselves.


Modified by B16C1 at 12:30 PM 10/15/2005

 

i believe the bc3+ dyno graph is accurate, i have these cams on my 2000 jdm itr too and my graph is pretty much identical to this one. the m22 cams will probably do better on wilder setups

 

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by red civic standard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The BC3+ and the M22x graph are the exact same motor with the exact same supporting mods. SMSP header, velocity stack intake, 2.5" exhaust, overbored ITR TB, AEBS IM, RC 310. Both tuned with hondata s200.</TD></TR></TABLE>

cool, why did whoever owns this car decide to do the test like that?


Dave

 

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cool, why did whoever owns this car decide to do the test like that?


Dave</TD></TR></TABLE>

To compare rocket m22x vs BC3+ on stock ITR block. M22x needs more compression I think.

 

cool thanks for the comparission


dAVE

 

I always thought the m22x cam is a much wilder cam than the bc3+, which would be confirmed by the results. with higher compression the m22x would be yield much better results.

but of course all this has been said already

 

another dyno with m22's on 12:1

 

Yeah, I'd like to see the M22's in the motor that had the Toda B's in it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, I'd like to see the M22's in the motor that had the Toda B's in it </TD></TR></TABLE>

ditto... before reading all the details, my mouth dropped when i saw what the toda b's did!

 

Yeah, I might expect the toda B's to hang or maybe even beat the M22's in the mid range, but the M22's would absolutely own on the top end. And it really varies form motor to motor, you check this thang thang and it's got an awesome dyno....I dunno?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1403055

 

any chance we are going to see couple more dyno's?

 

Great info, Luke!