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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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ive got a 91 crx hf with a 96 b series motor.. (lsvtec) coverted to obd 1.. it has obd 1 injectors, obd 0 wireharness.. ive been tryin to figure out why it wont crank for the past week.. i have these ground installed valve cover, trans, thermo housing and the vtec pressure sensor is grounded.. am i missing ground? when i turn the key all the gauges light up like they should.. but it makes these 2 clicking noises from the main relay.. it has fuel pressure.. any suggestions? ive been very anxious just to hear it crank let alone start thanks guys!


edit: car cranks with key now.. just isnt gettin spark at all.. also i have a code 20 with is eld could that be a problem with my spark?


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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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Does your pump prime? The relay could not be working properly .
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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well id ont hear the fuel pump prime but it gets fuel pressure am i missing any grounds?
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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If the pump isn't priming, then the relay isn't working. Is your pump stock? How do you know its getting pressure?
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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the fuel pump is stock.. i have a b&m fp gauge .. thats the only way and one of my injectors were leaking too .. my friend said i might no have enough grounds thats why my main relay is acting stupid
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by frankenfiend 04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the fuel pump is stock.. i have a b&m fp gauge .. thats the only way and one of my injectors were leaking too .. my friend said i might no have enough grounds thats why my main relay is acting stupid </TD></TR></TABLE>
I would say your friend is incorrect. I beleive he main relay is either going to work or its not going to work. You can add 10 more grounds, if the relay is bad its just nt going to work.

Have you releived the pressure from the lines and then tried cranking it? See if pressure builds back up.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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well the pressure doesnt stay it slowly drops .. but yea ima try a new main relay tomorrow and see what happens ... which grounds do you guys have on your cars?
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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bump,.. im sick of this thing not starting already
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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it is not the main relay but the starter relay. I had problems with my main relay before and the car still cranked. But when the main relay goes out the car wont crank at all. I wish I could tell you where exatly it is because is under the dash around the fuse box area.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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we'll definatly check both of those thing out. when it stops rainin around here
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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bump!
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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if you still have your resistor box then your obd 1 injectors will not work
you can either solder all the wires leading to the resistor box together OR
switch to obd-0 injectors
hope this helps
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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the wires are sodered together.. it gets feul just dosn't crank

does anybody know how much voltage the s treminal on the starter is supose to have when the key is turned to the start postion??
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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the main relay is good makes its clickin noise and so does the starter relay.. i hear the fuel pump prime.. just still no cranky... and more suggestions? can i put a ground right on the starter?
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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is the battery good? charged?
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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yup fully charged
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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bump....theres an extra main relay in my toolbox...get it when you want
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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Im having the same problem as you got fuel and fire...seem like iit my be a wiring problem so i will be switch it back to obd0 and see if it will start...
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by heyitzspikey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im having the same problem as you got fuel and fire...seem like iit my be a wiring problem so i will be switch it back to obd0 and see if it will start...</TD></TR></TABLE>

to late for that... the obd 1 plugs are soddered
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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it turns over but no spark now.. thats for tomorow or another day
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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i checked my codes and im getting a code 20 for electrical load detector any one know what could cause this?
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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have you checked all ur fuses? code 20 usually means the engine bay fuse box is bad.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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yea all tha fuses are good.. i checked them before
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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Didn't you say that one of your injectors was leaking did you bleed your system when you fixed the leak?
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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yes it has fuel goin inot the cylinders and pressure... it just doesn;t have spark now.. it's finally stoped rainin this week, were gonna chekc everythign out when he gets home from work.. but anybody else got any ideas about that code?
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