Well got to go to the dyno today. I was hoping to get above 140hp but i guess not. I have aebs I\M, GSR cams and custom exhaust. What do you guys think?

 

not great, not bad. I just rebuilt my engine and I have the same numbers. If you what more power, type-r cams instead of gsr cams.

 

yea im going for boost so all-motor numbers don't matter. I was told gsr cams are good for boost plus they were FREE.

 

I dynoed my B16 w/ GSR cams, made 144whp 109 ft lbs. Not that the N/A #s matter to you but did you adjust your fuel any, or just do a dyno pull? (btw- I also have the AEMS IM)

 

That's the numbers i was expecting, around 140 but if you look at the Afr chart you can see where it spikes at about 6500rpm so yes i do need to do some fuel tuning.

 

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that'll get you there. My first pull with TERRIBLE A/F was 122.55whp/99.33 ft lbs. after the fuel change and a little timing change, I ended up at 144.68 and 109. I can only assume your fuel raito wasn't half as jacked up as mine.

The GSR's are coming out of mine this Saturday

 

Id like to get a vafc. and if anyone needs a good dyno go to Scott Siegel at gwinnett Subaru.http://www.siegelracing.com/

 

what are you putting in?

 

Ordered CTR's from HMO on Tueday, they'll be here Friday. Debated between those and Blox Type A's, researched and researched and found the CTR's to be better IMO on stock vtrain with the 8200 rev limiter. Hoping to get or exceed 160whp.They make more low to mid. The blox advertise they make more power, but I haven't really seen it, 1-3 more hp is nothing.
I will dyno this time in the AM when its cooler, my last dyno it was registering over 105 degrees in the booth.

 

are you still running obd0 or 0bd1

 

OBD0 still. Just tuned with FPR, dizzy, and cam gears. Hopefully OBD1 next year
I, like you, planned on turboing but right now I just like tweaking the mild N/A. My last 2 cars were boosted SOHC's, they were fun, but not as fun as the B.

 

what did you do to raise the rev limiter because if you look at the dyno my power never drops off. It would be cool to raise it to 8200.

 

Nothing, nobody seems to beleive me when I tell them, but my PR3 came like that. VTEC at 5200, rev limiter at 8200. I know another guy with a PR3 in his CRX, VTEC is 5500, I think his revs to 8. Every pull was made until it hit the limiter.

The power on mine doesn't drop off either. IT is a pretty steady steady climb, very much like yours, I could give you a RPM comparison between mine and yours if you want, my scanner is down right now. Thats why I chose the CTR's, they make power in the range I need, and shouldn't drop off.


Modified by Autoworks at 3:23 AM 10/13/2005


Modified by Autoworks at 3:23 AM 10/13/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Autoworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nothing, nobody seems to beleive me when I tell them, but my PR3 came like that. VTEC at 5200, rev limiter at 8200. I know another guy with a PR3 in his CRX, VTEC is 5500, I think his revs to 8. Every pull was made until it hit the limiter.

The power on mine doesn't drop off either. IT is a pretty steady steady climb, very much like yours, I could give you a RPM comparison between mine and yours if you want, my scanner is down right now. Thats why I chose the CTR's, they make power in the range I need, and shouldn't drop off.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn I need a pr3. yes I would like to see the comparison. thanks

 

5000- 100
5200-110
6000-120
6500-130
7000-138
7500-142
8000-144


The graph I am looking at sucks because it has 3 runs on it and my hp/tq/ and af graph all on one sheet. If I could have had a bigger one printed it could be more accurate like yours. That's about as good as a comparison as I can get for you right now. My graph is similar to yours in the curve, my curve is just higher. Damn I wish my scanner worked.

 

That's cool.... now i need a vafc cam gears and ignition and ill be set for the next dyno.

 

Yep, VAFC and gears, also a dizzy adjustment will get you fine tuned. I plan on adding a VAFC to mine shortly, just better for the fine tuning. After a while without it you can only play with the pressure as a whole so much. Half a twist here you gain power loose torque, turn it the other way, lose power and torque. VAFC set the pressure according to RPM and you've got a much better situation.

(DISCLAIMER: the above is all an opinion from observation, research, experience with tuning my car. It was all done at Pro Performance in Montgomery-Shouts Out- HOLLA )

 

yea i like the vafc its treated my friends well plus its a good hack when you boost.
Even though people say its not the best way to tune its one of the only ways to tune obd0.......flaming begins...

 

autoworks what do you think about the ebay chips?

 

[QUOTE=Autoworks]Nothing, nobody seems to beleive me when I tell them, but my PR3 came like that. VTEC at 5200, rev limiter at 8200. I know another guy with a PR3 in his CRX, VTEC is 5500, I think his revs to 8. Every pull was made until it hit the limiter.
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Mines the same exact way, 5200/8200!

 

Do you know if all pr3's are like that?

 

My first ECU was a PW0 it kicked in at 5500. I just got finished driving my car, its definately, my tach actually says its at 4700, but the dyno shows it closer to 5200? Go figure

 

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I am iffy about those chips. There are just too many people making them, saying they do this and that. I've heard some putting excessice wear on dizzys. I would stay away from them. The VAFC can do what the cheap chips can do. The closest I'd get to a chip is either a Sealed Spoon PR3 or a reprogram by something more reputable.

I personally feel like the VAFC and OBD0 go hand in hand. Throw a boomslang direct VAFC plug in harness in the equation and your set.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16crxkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">[QUOTE=Autoworks]Nothing, nobody seems to beleive me when I tell them, but my PR3 came like that. VTEC at 5200, rev limiter at 8200. I know another guy with a PR3 in his CRX, VTEC is 5500, I think his revs to 8. Every pull was made until it hit the limiter.
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Mines the same exact way, 5200/8200! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Must be an Alabama thing
I think most are like that.
If you are good with chipping ecu's I have one here you can have if you pay for the shipping. I am unsure what is wrong with it. When I first bought it the guy described it as "virgin-unopened", when it got hear it was obviosly not a virgin, looked more like it was date raped. The car will not actually crank and idle with it and something inside is loose. I never even bothered opening it. Got 90% of my $$ back from paypal and got to keep the ECU. It's just sitting right now. I thought about taking it to motorvations to see about getting the Hondata added to it...just been to occupied. If you are interested in it let me know

 

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same here my tach is at 5000 but the dyno shows 5200. I have video but iv got to get another plug so i can upload it to the old computer. Ill try to get it up tomorrow.