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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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Default Big problem.. after ITR swap ppl plz help me out!!!

I recently did an ITR swap to my 00 NonVtec. Car starts & idles fine..
but when it goes in gear, car will stall and die.. what's wrong with it?
i had CEL 54 and i fixed it today since i have no more CEL i don't knwo where to check from...
Car is not even drivable so i can't even bring it to the shop ..help plz

By the way, i also have this wiring problem with my alternator which motor is USDM model 4 wires plug but the alternator only fits the 3 wires plug so i mod it and left one wire (WHT/GRN) on the side... car charges fine but the Battery light on the dash stays on.. Do you think this might have something to do with my suitation?

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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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by the way, i am able to move the car with 1st gear in and clutch only.. but the second i step on teh throttle the car shuts off.. it's really werid..
seems like it's not getting enough gas in there or something.. my tank is full and before the swap everythign was working fine with my old engine..
ppl told me it might be "possible misalignment of my shift linkages"
what do you guys think??
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 04:42 AM
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It sounds like your MAP and TPS are mixed up. Swap them and give it another try.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dwnthehatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It sounds like your MAP and TPS are mixed up. Swap them and give it another try.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah try switching the map and tps to see if you have them crossed. Same thing happen to a friend of mine he switched them around and the car ran perfect.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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COOL~~ guys..
i am going to try it now .. i will keep you guys posted
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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just want to double check.. you guys talking about swapping around the TPS & MAP right? the black plug?
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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You cant mix them up. U may have plugged them in incorrectly.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redsun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You cant mix them up. U may have plugged them in incorrectly.</TD></TR></TABLE> yeah you are right.. my friend did plug them wrong.. now the car is drivable.. but IDLE at 3k... crazy high.. what should i do?
i tried to retarded the timing on the distrubtor & adjust the IDLE screw clockwise to the end.. only managed to get to 1100 RPM (still high) then code 14 (IACV defective circult or unplugged/defective sensor) came on...
what should i do now?
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:55 AM
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At the back of your intake manifold, theres a small cylinder looking thing. Theres a plug underneath it. Check that this is plugged in. It should next to your TPS.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redsun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">At the back of your intake manifold, theres a small cylinder looking thing. Theres a plug underneath it. Check that this is plugged in. It should next to your TPS.</TD></TR></TABLE>

cool thanks i will double check with that..
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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What happens if you disconnect your IACV?
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fast88std &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What happens if you disconnect your IACV?</TD></TR></TABLE>

When I disconnect mine my motor shuts off. And since this guy is having an idle problem then I guess I should ask my question here instead of starting a new thread.


I searched and searched and search and searched and I'm still a little lost. I have an irratic idle that goes from about 1100 - 1600. It only does it when the car is warm. I took apart my FITV and it looked fine and i have cleaned my eacv and that didn't help. I completely blocked off my eacv and that stopped all bouncing of the idle, but hte car idles at like 200 rpm once you immediately start the car and will idle like that no matter how hot the motor gets. I unblocked the eacv after a few days to see if anything changed and the bouncin idle when warm comes back. But my eacv "clicks" when plugged in and the hole in the tb doesn't really suck when the motor is hot (and not bouncing) but it does start to suck with the bouncing idle. Does this make any sense? Am I making things too complicated for myself or are all signs pointing towards a bad or failing EACV? I also re-calibrated my tps and that is fine.

I hate idle......
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fast88std &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What happens if you disconnect your IACV?</TD></TR></TABLE>

when i disconnected my iACV the IDLE went higher to 3k
but i have found the problem today.. it's actually the purge solenoid thing that's messing with it.. like my nonvtec has the mounting point for it but the ITR motor doesn't have it.. so in order to get me the normal idle i pluged the vacuum port.. and i doing it right? then i reroute the carb hole to the intake and pluged the vacuum on the valve cover too...
this is a temp solution to fix my idle.. so what exactly should i do now guys??
plz help me out~
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 02:00 AM
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Is this what you are talking about?
Sorry you cant see it very well in the pic.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redsun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is this what you are talking about?
Sorry you cant see it very well in the pic.
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YES that's what i am talking about~
by the way,lovely valve cover & the bay
how you get your engine so clean?
RHD? WOW
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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Not sure exactly what you done but the ITR purge valve has a tube that goes into the IM (as seen above) and a black plug and then another tube at the bottom that joins the purge canister.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PaChiLa Leader &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
by the way,lovely valve cover & the bay
how you get your engine so clean?
RHD? WOW</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks
It took me a while to do the valve cover. Stripped all paint of and primer and sprayed.
The engine and tranny i cleaned and painted with silver metal paint while i was building it.
It's RHD because i live in UK. It's a real JDM civic imported from Japan.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redsun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not sure exactly what you done but the ITR purge valve has a tube that goes into the IM (as seen above) and a black plug and then another tube at the bottom that joins the purge canister.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think i am missing the ITR purge valve..
i am sure something is missing there..
like on the LS motor it has a purge thing mounted on the IM itself.. but ITR IM doesn't have it.. so i took it out and just join the black tube that comes from the canister striaght to plug on the IM and got me rough IDLE..
do you know where can i get the ITR purge valve or i can reuse my LS one's and mount it on the firewall or soemthing??
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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Thats your EACV.
A friend has a ITR swapped crx and he just blocked the pipe on the IM and it works for him.
Try plugging yours, if it dont work then you need the EACV.
when i plugged mine it idle very high when cold. And then when hot it shoots from low to high.
My advice is get one from junk yard somewhere. I can get you one from this country if you cannot find one.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redsun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats your EACV.
A friend has a ITR swapped crx and he just blocked the pipe on the IM and it works for him.
Try plugging yours, if it dont work then you need the EACV.
when i plugged mine it idle very high when cold. And then when hot it shoots from low to high.
My advice is get one from junk yard somewhere. I can get you one from this country if you cannot find one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ic~ yeah i plugged mine too.. the second i plugged it.. idle went back to normal but then what am i gonna do with the canister tube? i now put it where the intake is and plugged the plug on the Valve cover~ is that the proper way to do so or what?
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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Plug that too, you dont need to connect it elsewhere.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redsun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Plug that too, you dont need to connect it elsewhere.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am sorry plug which? the valve cover one?
or plug the one from the canister?
i put the canister one to the intake for now and since the valve cover tube has no place to go i plugged it for now..
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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The valve cover one should go to to intake dude. Plug the one on the canister.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redsun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The valve cover one should go to to intake dude. Plug the one on the canister.</TD></TR></TABLE>

YES SIR..
thanks for all the information
as for the purge valve i guess i dont' really need it do i?
i am just trying to play on the safe side
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