B18 in 89 integra
I have B18A motor and i was just wondering if the engine can swap into my car and drive nice and be reliable w/o putting in any other parts?? And would it be ok to turbo the engine?
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there is some custom fabrication necessary (read: bang the engine bay with a sledgehammer). yes, you can do it. search on sportcompactcarweb.com. they did B16A into 1G teg and it went well, but there was no room for power steering or a/c.
Yeah if all else fails. Sit the motor in front of you in your driveway and act like its in your car while making VROOM VROOM sounds and occasional ERRK sounds of you squealing your tires
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The b18 swap could be done, but you have no room for A/C or Power steering as was said above. In the end though the swap is worth the work.
.The b18 swap could be done, but you have no room for A/C or Power steering as was said above. In the end though the swap is worth the work.
haha yeah...i like that sit in front of the engine idea....
well..since there would be no room for power steering or a/c, would it be possible to install a turbo?? and if so which turbo should i run?thanks again everyone
well..since there would be no room for power steering or a/c, would it be possible to install a turbo?? and if so which turbo should i run?thanks again everyone
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rajin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah if all else fails. Sit the motor in front of you in your driveway and act like its in your car while making VROOM VROOM sounds and occasional ERRK sounds of you squealing your tires
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The b18 swap could be done, but you have no room for A/C or Power steering as was said above. In the end though the swap is worth the work.
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Thats some funny ****
.The b18 swap could be done, but you have no room for A/C or Power steering as was said above. In the end though the swap is worth the work.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Thats some funny ****
hmm T25 comes to mind for a 1.6L going to 7000 or 7500rpm. a medium-sized T3 would also do. at least for up to 15psi. more than that and you'd need a bigger turbo. but over 15psi will mean a seriously built engine, so i doubt you'll see that high. i would say 7-12psi would be safe, given a good tuner. in a few months i may have a like new T25G (a bit larger than standard T25 trim) for sale. if you wanted to go all-out and money isn't much of an issue then a nice GT25R or some variant would probably do really well for that displacement/redline/boost combo. that's if you have ~$800+ to spend on the turbo though.
EDIT: i think you were meaning "can i turbo my D16A (stock engine in your car)".
EDIT: i think you were meaning "can i turbo my D16A (stock engine in your car)".
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hrmmmi was asking if i should turbo the b18 engine when i swapped it in...i never really thought about turbo in my D16 tho...mainly cuz it has 211k on it. but if a turbo kit was put on my stock motor what would i do in the 1/4 mile run?
well you'd seriously need to rebuild it after 211,000 miles. but i don't see why 10-12psi wouldn't make a good 250whp tuned well so i'd say with a good driver and good tires 13 seconds flat shouldn't be all that hard. anybody with me on that?
Reliable, turbo, and Honda don't go together in the same sentence.
You can have reliable and honda, or turbo and Honda, but never all three, unless you're saying that its unreliable.
You're making a NA engine accept boost that it wasn't designed for. First, B18s are open deck, which means that they're fragile at anything above 5-8lbs. Second, the entire engine is Aluminum, which can warp easily (look at SR20s and their problems).
Third, the oil system wasn't designed for turbo. Its a lot to maintain all parts of a turbo car, and even more when the car wasn't made for tubo.
But "without any parts put in", you'll be fine. Ever hear of a reliable daily-driven Honda? I have, and they're great cars stock that will drive you around as long as you own them.
You can have reliable and honda, or turbo and Honda, but never all three, unless you're saying that its unreliable.
You're making a NA engine accept boost that it wasn't designed for. First, B18s are open deck, which means that they're fragile at anything above 5-8lbs. Second, the entire engine is Aluminum, which can warp easily (look at SR20s and their problems).
Third, the oil system wasn't designed for turbo. Its a lot to maintain all parts of a turbo car, and even more when the car wasn't made for tubo.
But "without any parts put in", you'll be fine. Ever hear of a reliable daily-driven Honda? I have, and they're great cars stock that will drive you around as long as you own them.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by apok »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Reliable, turbo, and Honda don't go together in the same sentence.
You can have reliable and honda, or turbo and Honda, but never all three, unless you're saying that its unreliable.
You're making a NA engine accept boost that it wasn't designed for. First, B18s are open deck, which means that they're fragile at anything above 5-8lbs. Second, the entire engine is Aluminum, which can warp easily (look at SR20s and their problems).
Third, the oil system wasn't designed for turbo. Its a lot to maintain all parts of a turbo car, and even more when the car wasn't made for tubo.
But "without any parts put in", you'll be fine. Ever hear of a reliable daily-driven Honda? I have, and they're great cars stock that will drive you around as long as you own them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hey, several stock-engine LS motors have seen 300whp at 15psi for 3 years+. and stock-block SR20DET's have seen 450whp for 2 years+.
You can have reliable and honda, or turbo and Honda, but never all three, unless you're saying that its unreliable.
You're making a NA engine accept boost that it wasn't designed for. First, B18s are open deck, which means that they're fragile at anything above 5-8lbs. Second, the entire engine is Aluminum, which can warp easily (look at SR20s and their problems).
Third, the oil system wasn't designed for turbo. Its a lot to maintain all parts of a turbo car, and even more when the car wasn't made for tubo.
But "without any parts put in", you'll be fine. Ever hear of a reliable daily-driven Honda? I have, and they're great cars stock that will drive you around as long as you own them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hey, several stock-engine LS motors have seen 300whp at 15psi for 3 years+. and stock-block SR20DET's have seen 450whp for 2 years+.
Blah! Stock is boring, and i plan on buying a new car soon enough.
I dont really feel like rebuilding the 211k veteran, but i might cuz it sounds like a good idea to go 13's. The B18 in my car would surprise others and installing a turbo kit would make it the sleeper that i want. But i mean...i want it to last more than 30k miles...cmon honda and 30k doesnt cut it for me. But if a rebuild and a turbo kit is just about all i would need for my D16 i'd be down if i ran 13's....so now more Q's come to mind.
How much would a rebuild cost? Should i get some more updated parts like a stage 1 clutch or stage 2? New axles...?? And where can i find a D-Series turbo kit? thanks again everyone...
I dont really feel like rebuilding the 211k veteran, but i might cuz it sounds like a good idea to go 13's. The B18 in my car would surprise others and installing a turbo kit would make it the sleeper that i want. But i mean...i want it to last more than 30k miles...cmon honda and 30k doesnt cut it for me. But if a rebuild and a turbo kit is just about all i would need for my D16 i'd be down if i ran 13's....so now more Q's come to mind.
How much would a rebuild cost? Should i get some more updated parts like a stage 1 clutch or stage 2? New axles...?? And where can i find a D-Series turbo kit? thanks again everyone...
as said you can have your B18 sleeper, it just won't have a/c or p/s. and there may not be any room for a turbo. i don't know about that. if you really wanted a turbo B18 it could be done by relocating the turbo, so don't fret. d-series turbo kits are easy enough to find, and you should be able to get everything you need for a rebuild for about $750 and pay a buddy to help you with a case of beer or something.
damn...i dont care bout the a/c but i love p/s even though its a loss to hp...feels safer yanno. and with a turbo kit...might need to have the handle on the car. i think ill just stick to the b18 turbo, thanks for everything
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by naglfar 187 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn...i dont care bout the a/c but i love p/s even though its a loss to hp...feels safer yanno. and with a turbo kit...might need to have the handle on the car. i think ill just stick to the b18 turbo, thanks for everything </TD></TR></TABLE>
you do realize that with the B18 there will be no p/s, right? and anyways, now that i've finally finished my pro non-p/s setup (i coped RealTime Racing's ITRs' setups) i'm SO happy not to have p/s. forget the 3hp or whatever. i did it b/c the steering feel is simply GOD. i can't tell you how great it feels, i really can't. it's so confidence-inspiring it's sick. on the track i'm sure it's worth half a sack of gold. p/s could never be so direct!
you do realize that with the B18 there will be no p/s, right? and anyways, now that i've finally finished my pro non-p/s setup (i coped RealTime Racing's ITRs' setups) i'm SO happy not to have p/s. forget the 3hp or whatever. i did it b/c the steering feel is simply GOD. i can't tell you how great it feels, i really can't. it's so confidence-inspiring it's sick. on the track i'm sure it's worth half a sack of gold. p/s could never be so direct!
yeah dude i know.....no p/s that is gonna suck...but i think i could get used to it. i love driving my car with one hand tho and using one hand to turn the wheel, sense of power for me right there. but down the road i'd be down for the b18 turbo w/o p/s. But for now... a rebuild and D-Series turbo sounds cheaper than installing the b18 and what not, i can always upgrade my clutch and do other things to this car...would i need to get new axles for the turbo..dont want my car to take off w/o the wheels and just have the body and chassis fall in front of it.
if you want to run slicks or something at the drag strip, you'll need aftermarket axles. if you just want a fun street car and maybe drag race with street tires, stock axles should be fine, although doubling a car's power output is always stressful on driveline components and nice racing axles would be nice insurance. and BTW, both of my cars have no p/s and i can drive both of them with 1 hand.
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