http://picperformance.com/stor...t=159

Found their link on the flashing banner ads here at H-T. Anyone have any experience with their products?



Their site is fairly informative about what they use in their products, and for the most part seem pretty decent. Unforunately I cant seem to find any reviews of their products here at H-T.

 

Bump anyone?

 

looks like omnis just a different color. i think they are even the same spring rates

 

anyone have any updated reviews on these? im about to haul off and buy some type of suspension, but i dont know which stuff to get. im considering ksport, pic, tein, and the old koni yellow/gc combo.

im leaning towards the koni/gc combo, but i'd like more info on the pic stuff because you dont have to reuse stock parts.

 

http://www.ef-honda.com/main/viewtopic.php?t=22551

http://www.ef-honda.com/main/viewtopic.php?t=22416

 

Wow, I never ever heard of those.
The info is really really complete tho. And informative.

None of the BS 36-way adjuatability BS that has no range of motion anyway. Plus they're not too flashy. Finish looks sweet, and the extanded top hats look well thought through and quality fit.

I'm starting to get really interested in these.

 

for the money koni + ground control > *

 

so am i im probably rethinking on to ditch my first idea in buying those funtion and form type 2's over these they look great. although they cost like 1k thats my only turn off its either tiens or these for the money

 

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I find it -really- irritating with mine that my springs dangle loose at full wheel droop.
Also I hate that I'm riding my bump stops so often when you drop it down alot.

 

those top hats do nothing good for the shocks, only limit droop and shock travel. because the shock body does not fit inside the top hat, so the point of the top hat is meaningless for extending shock travel.

i had a lengthy discussion with "noob4life", PIC's previous screenname about it. he failed to convince me of anything.

seti, sounds like you just need real extended top hats that are made to fit your koni's. they were designed to work with konis.

 

That will not fix my loose spring problem at all.

Why would the shock body need to fit inside the top hats? Doesn't make sense...

The bottom of the shock body is adjustable to lower the car. You can put preload on the shocks with the lower spring perches, and the top hats will do nothing more than give some extra leeway for the piston.

 

ugh.. i cant go over this again and again...

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1497161
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1683697
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1712867

 

Yes, I see your point on the shock bodies fitting in the top hats. In this case, I think the top hats don't do much of anything, because there's ample shock travel, due to the fact you can simply keep the lower perches up high....and lower the car while lowering the physical shock body itself.

Your point is clear. What's unclear to me, is why the EF set has these top hats at all..?

 

exactly. worthless (when used with shocks that dont fit like PIC and omnipower)

the GC top hats are definately going to take up that gap above the spring at full droop because it directly takes away from droop travel, when used with konis, or any other normal shock. and in the end, give you back lost shock travel due to lowering.



Modified by Tyson at 2:10 PM 8/12/2006

 

Indeed. But...as I see it... if you're lowering by dropping the whole body, keeping the same preload, and leave the lower perch alone... you're not sacrificing any travel.

...so no need for top hats. Then why the design adjustment?


Modified by SETI20 at 12:16 AM 8/13/2006

 

beats me. noob4life seems to be convinced theyre doing something magically different. whatever floats his boat and his customers. what do i care.

problem with the EF is that there really isnt much room in the front suspension really. so that lower cup is going to bottom out of adjustment quickly, and still remain at a high ride height. so all you got left is to lower the bottom spring perch, which is against the whole point of the lower cup anyway... that was the issue with omnipowers, even though they still advertised a 4" drop. whatever.

extended top hats would be great in theory (and when properly put in practice), but their design simply doesnt work in this case because theyre limited to the threaded body shock diameter as its the same design across their model lineup for every car model.



Modified by Tyson at 11:59 PM 8/12/2006

 

Ok, so we'll leave the top hat discussion alone.

I can't make heads or tails of that shock dyno. Who can tell me how it compares at low speed to some of the other shocks and full-body coilovers?

Is it a new design, or just another clone with a different color?