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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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I have a 93 Integra LS, with all original suspension with over 183,000 miles and its time to replace the suspension. My questions is if maybe anyone knows of anything I might be missing that should be swiched out while replacing shocks and springs, or possibly better parts to use instead of what I have....so far it costing about $900.00 after installation. Thanks for the help!!

here is my list of what I will be buying so far...

1. - Tokico ILLUMINA 5 ways adjustable struts/shocks set.
2. - H&R Sport Springs.
3. - Adjustable front and rear Camber correction kit.
4. - Strut bar / tie bar 4 pieces combo kit.
5. - Energy Suspension rear trailing arm bushings.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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your probably going to want to factor in seized bushings and such, youll probably need new control arms atleast
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BudgetLSRacer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your probably going to want to factor in seized bushings and such, youll probably need new control arms atleast</TD></TR></TABLE>


In just the rear??


seen this kit for the front, I might get it, cuase i think my front suspensions a mess..






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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DJHyperXK2004 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


In just the rear??


seen this kit for the front, I might get it, cuase i think my front suspensions a mess..




Modified by DJHyperXK2004 at 6:28 PM 10/10/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

were did you see that kit from? how much?
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DJHyperXK2004 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 93 Integra LS, with all original suspension with over 183,000 miles and its time to replace the suspension. My questions is if maybe anyone knows of anything I might be missing that should be swiched out while replacing shocks and springs, or possibly better parts to use instead of what I have....so far it costing about $900.00 after installation. Thanks for the help!!

here is my list of what I will be buying so far...

1. - Tokico ILLUMINA 5 ways adjustable struts/shocks set.
2. - H&R Sport Springs.
3. - Adjustable front and rear Camber correction kit.
4. - Strut bar / tie bar 4 pieces combo kit.
5. - Energy Suspension rear trailing arm bushings.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You might want to search around some, but I hear bad things about those bushings. Something about them not allowing the arm to move through the entire range it needs to move through.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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Most people recommend stiffer Mugen bushings instead... yea do a search on that
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projectTeG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

were did you see that kit from? how much?</TD></TR></TABLE>


Was a kit I saw on E-bay, looks like everything i need?? cost about 130 I think, they were on sale, lol
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by archmage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most people recommend stiffer Mugen bushings instead... yea do a search on that</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea now i do remember a while back, reading the long tread on that, they said better to use the mugen ones, or just go with another set of stock bushings, I only plan on keeping the car about 4 - 5 more years..
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DJHyperXK2004 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
3. - Adjustable front and rear Camber correction kit.
4. - Strut bar / tie bar 4 pieces combo kit.
5. - Energy Suspension rear trailing arm bushings.</TD></TR></TABLE>

3. Not needed

4. Bling parts mostly; cut them out if you don't have the budget

5. Too stiff for that location, will cause suspension bind and bump steer - not pretty and quite dangerous. Use an OEM (they have seperate part numbers now) or Mugen (same as new OEM design, but much more expensive).

I would say take the money you'd waste on the tie bars and camber kit, and invest in the GC / Koni Yellow combo with OTS springrates and a good alignment. They can be had for less than $800 shipped; check out red shift motorsports, ususally have the best prices and Chris is a good guy to talk to.



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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Is Mugen's TA bushings really the same as the OEM one? I remember someone had posted a site that did a review on it a while back, and iirc it came back inconclusive?
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is Mugen's TA bushings really the same as the OEM one? I remember someone had posted a site that did a review on it a while back, and iirc it came back inconclusive? </TD></TR></TABLE>

the are made from the same mold, not material i believe.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projectTeG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the are made from the same mold, not material i believe.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The original OEM ones were not very strong, so Mugen made a very expensive replacement. Honda put out a TSB about TA bushing failures, and redesigned the bushing. It is now available seperately and nearly identical to the Mugen.

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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
with OTS springrates
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what does this mean?
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BbOi0420 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what does this mean?</TD></TR></TABLE>

OTS - Off The Shelf spring rates. Pretty much for an integra ~350front/280rear
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