TODA SPEC B CAMS ON GSR?
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TODA SPEC B CAMS ON GSR?
My buddy is selling me his SPEC B cams for such a very good deal. I was wondering if any of u guys got this on ur car with upgraded valvetrain on a stock gsr comp bottom end with bolt ons(skunk2 manifold, i/e/h) and chipped p28? thanks much
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Re: TODA SPEC B CAMS ON GSR? (raffiT78)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raffiT78 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">todas make good power, but i hear you will loose a lil of your torque, it makes power. 
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It was the opposite for me, I gained quite a bit of torque, especially in the midrange.
With a stock bottom end, IMO, the compression is a bit too low. I would seriously consider bumping the compression if you choose to pick them up.
</TD></TR></TABLE>It was the opposite for me, I gained quite a bit of torque, especially in the midrange.
With a stock bottom end, IMO, the compression is a bit too low. I would seriously consider bumping the compression if you choose to pick them up.
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Re: TODA SPEC B CAMS ON GSR? (rodrez.)
"With a stock bottom end, IMO, the compression is a bit too low.
I would seriously consider bumping the compression if you choose to pick them up"
Considering i will get a thinner headgasket, minor head job done and flat valves, did u think it will help me somehow? thanks
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Re: TODA SPEC B CAMS ON GSR? (smkngsr)
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Considering i will get a thinner headgasket, minor head job done and flat valves, did u think it will help me somehow? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
Absolutely. That would make a little bit of difference difference for you.
Considering i will get a thinner headgasket, minor head job done and flat valves, did u think it will help me somehow? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
Absolutely. That would make a little bit of difference difference for you.
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Re: TODA SPEC B CAMS ON GSR? (smkngsr)
I have a new build ready for start up soon with Toda C's and I'm using a Power Enterprise belt, with a little extra tension added to keep it from slipping. We will se how it goes, but for sure the belt will be replaced on a yearly basis, cheaper than having to do a rebuild.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pondus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a new build ready for start up soon with Toda C's and I'm using a Power Enterprise belt, with a little extra tension added to keep it from slipping. We will se how it goes, but for sure the belt will be replaced on a yearly basis, cheaper than having to do a rebuild.</TD></TR></TABLE>
did u mean that i will have to change my oem belt every year when i get my toda spec b cams? i know that toda is know for shredding timing belt and im not sure if i heard that right...
did u mean that i will have to change my oem belt every year when i get my toda spec b cams? i know that toda is know for shredding timing belt and im not sure if i heard that right...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRintegra_Bob »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am pretty sure that when you go up to toda b's you should upgrade your valvetrain, (springs and retainers) and also a toda timing belt is recommended. i looked into it for my gsr</TD></TR></TABLE>
il definitely change my valvetrain(springs and retainers, and valves), im not sure about the timing belt...is that a must? whats the consequenses if i dont change my timing belt?
il definitely change my valvetrain(springs and retainers, and valves), im not sure about the timing belt...is that a must? whats the consequenses if i dont change my timing belt?
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Its been well known that due to the great lift and duration of these cams, spec b's and c's have a lot more tension on the timing belt. Its smart to use an upgraded one and increase the tension just slightly.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Deetz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its been well known that due to the great lift and duration of these cams, spec b's and c's have a lot more tension on the timing belt. Its smart to use an upgraded one and increase the tension just slightly.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i fully understand that issue of lift and duration. How about those with skunk2 stage 2 with lift of 12.5 and duration of 264? Those are actually a little higher than spec b but never heard of timing belt recommendation. i just want to make sure...thanks for all ur feedback guys...more pls on the performance of spec for stock comp gsr
i fully understand that issue of lift and duration. How about those with skunk2 stage 2 with lift of 12.5 and duration of 264? Those are actually a little higher than spec b but never heard of timing belt recommendation. i just want to make sure...thanks for all ur feedback guys...more pls on the performance of spec for stock comp gsr
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smkngsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i fully understand that issue of lift and duration. How about those with skunk2 stage 2 with lift of 12.5 and duration of 264? Those are actually a little higher than spec b but never heard of timing belt recommendation. i just want to make sure...thanks for all ur feedback guys...more pls on the performance of spec for stock comp gsr</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well if you search the archives the Toda cams have a history of beeing hard on timing belts, it's not only because of the increased lift and duration but mostly beacuse of the profile of the cam lobes, the opening of the valves are a lot more aggressive than on stock cams so this puts a lot of stress on the belt. By using a stronger belt. like Toda or Power Enterprise you can add a little extra tension to it to help prevent slipping, but do not expect the belt to last as long as an OEM belt on a stock engine. It is also a lot cheaper to change the belt more frequently than having to do a full rebuild if it snaps or slips. I'm not saying it needs to be changed once a year, but I personally would prefer to be on the safe side after spending big $$ on my engine build.
i fully understand that issue of lift and duration. How about those with skunk2 stage 2 with lift of 12.5 and duration of 264? Those are actually a little higher than spec b but never heard of timing belt recommendation. i just want to make sure...thanks for all ur feedback guys...more pls on the performance of spec for stock comp gsr</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well if you search the archives the Toda cams have a history of beeing hard on timing belts, it's not only because of the increased lift and duration but mostly beacuse of the profile of the cam lobes, the opening of the valves are a lot more aggressive than on stock cams so this puts a lot of stress on the belt. By using a stronger belt. like Toda or Power Enterprise you can add a little extra tension to it to help prevent slipping, but do not expect the belt to last as long as an OEM belt on a stock engine. It is also a lot cheaper to change the belt more frequently than having to do a full rebuild if it snaps or slips. I'm not saying it needs to be changed once a year, but I personally would prefer to be on the safe side after spending big $$ on my engine build.
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Well if you search the archives the Toda cams have a history of beeing hard on timing belts, it's not only because of the increased lift and duration but mostly beacuse of the profile of the cam lobes, the opening of the valves are a lot more aggressive than on stock cams so this puts a lot of stress on the belt. By using a stronger belt. like Toda or Power Enterprise you can add a little extra tension to it to help prevent slipping, but do not expect the belt to last as long as an OEM belt on a stock engine. It is also a lot cheaper to change the belt more frequently than having to do a full rebuild if it snaps or slips. I'm not saying it needs to be changed once a year, but I personally would prefer to be on the safe side after spending big $$ on my engine build.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks for all the feedback guys, the only reason i was thinking of toda spec b is because my buddy is selling me his for some decent price and its hard to turn down for the price he offer. Considering that i will need lots of compression to get the most of this, i guess, i will have to start looking for another cams where its less maintenance.
Well if you search the archives the Toda cams have a history of beeing hard on timing belts, it's not only because of the increased lift and duration but mostly beacuse of the profile of the cam lobes, the opening of the valves are a lot more aggressive than on stock cams so this puts a lot of stress on the belt. By using a stronger belt. like Toda or Power Enterprise you can add a little extra tension to it to help prevent slipping, but do not expect the belt to last as long as an OEM belt on a stock engine. It is also a lot cheaper to change the belt more frequently than having to do a full rebuild if it snaps or slips. I'm not saying it needs to be changed once a year, but I personally would prefer to be on the safe side after spending big $$ on my engine build.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks for all the feedback guys, the only reason i was thinking of toda spec b is because my buddy is selling me his for some decent price and its hard to turn down for the price he offer. Considering that i will need lots of compression to get the most of this, i guess, i will have to start looking for another cams where its less maintenance.
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I had a GSR with Toda B's stock compression making 180whp and 131wtq. motor completely stock, even with stock Manifold.
The only problem that I ever encountered with timing belts were non-OEM.... TODA belts. They wore out extremely fast, 20k miles. Now running nothing but OEM belts and no problems.
The only problem that I ever encountered with timing belts were non-OEM.... TODA belts. They wore out extremely fast, 20k miles. Now running nothing but OEM belts and no problems.
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id say under 500...i think thats a really good price and it was only used for no more than 1k miles
id say under 500...i think thats a really good price and it was only used for no more than 1k miles
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They have about 12k on them and look brand new w/ gears if anyone is interested... random I know...</TD></TR></TABLE>
You gotta be kidding....
Why bump a 3 year old thread with a for sale when there's a for sale thread at the top of the forum.
They have about 12k on them and look brand new w/ gears if anyone is interested... random I know...</TD></TR></TABLE>You gotta be kidding....
Why bump a 3 year old thread with a for sale when there's a for sale thread at the top of the forum.