Has anyone ran with Neuspeeds coilover kit with the Bilstein Shocks? Is it a good setup or not. I have read through a lot of threads and have not found many posts about their setup. I like Bilstein beause they have been around but not many people seem to be instrested with them on this forum. Just wanted to know if there is any good reason why not. Thanks ryer

 

I've run them before, best coilovers I've ever owned. Only drawback is they're on the soft side if you wanna do alot of autox.

 

This setup is a better overall preformer than gc koni combo. In my opinion. The same ones I'm saving for. Manufactured in Germany too. So you know what quality your getting. They are good for autox just up to your likes and dislikes when behind the wheel. And depends what other components are installed.

If you want stiffer ride get some stiffer springs. Like RSR or Spoon Race springs. lnik to them for $850.00 free ship

http://www.neuspeed.com/produc...d=898

 

Yep those are the ones Im looking at. Thanks for the info

 

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They do not have adjustable damping and you are stuck w/ their spring rate. How would that make it better than koni/gc?

 

I would have to say to start with they have a limited lifetime warrenty. Basically you dont bring it back bent they will fix it. They have been in business for over 40 years. Doing all kinds of applications. Not just jap cars. That variable spring rate is just another thing to break and it is over rated. Unless a computer is controlling it, it isnt going to do you any good because you are not fast enough to change the damping for turns and what not. Its a nice bell or whisle.

 

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How long do you think Koni and Eibach have been in business?


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WTF are you talking about????

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How long do you think Koni and Eibach have been in business? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Koni and Eibach supply all the top levels of motorsports with dampers - even F1. Cant say the same for Neuspeed....

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Seriously. Spring rate is a constant property. F=Kx. Hooke's law, go look it up.

The Neuspeed kit may not be a bad choice, but just because its sold as a "full" or "true" coilover kit in a pretty package doesnt mean its great. Be more worried about the quality of the components going in. Koni + GC is tough to beat for the money, or even twice the money.

 

You should probably research more about what you're talking about before you go around making such claims. You're also arguing with people who REALLY know what they're talking about, when you clearly are lacking some knowledge on the subject.

 

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Sounds like you're gettin ready to drop a pretty penny without knowing very well what you're getting into. Take the advice, do some research.

 

Why do you always refer to the look of the packaging it comes in. If its a jdm madness thing that all ricers have turned into than its a good description of those people. and do the springs fall off the perch when you jack up the car? is that with the sleves only ?

Every KONI coilover kit features a shock absorber with owner-adjustable rebound valving. By making a simple adjustment on the piston rod of the shock, you can change the resistance force of the shock. Bilstein goes one level higher with their PSS-9 coilover kits. The Bilstein PSS9 kit features a 9-position dial on the body of the shock that allows you to change the rebound and bump forces at the same time.

^ heres the link to them. http://www.namotorsports.net/d...20.01

How would gc/koni be better?

 

WTF are bump forces? You mean compression?

 

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What does springs falling off the seat of the perch have to do with anything? If its a street car, keep the spring length long enough where that doesnt happen.

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Actually it changes the rebound damping characteristics of the shock.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bilstein goes one level higher with their PSS-9 coilover kits. The Bilstein PSS9 kit features a 9-position dial on the body of the shock that allows you to change the rebound and bump forces at the same time.

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You *do not* need to chance compression damping on most shocks. If you knew anything about suspension tuning then you wouldnt even bring it up. Compression damping controls the unsprung weight of the chassis, and making this adjustable does nothing but add unnecessary complexity to your shocks.

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Well you've proven nothing that the Neuspeed 'kit' is any better. But Koni has a lifetime warranty on their product, and both Koni and Eibach support the top levels of motorsports (F1, WRC, Nascar, etc). The Koni + GC combo is on tons of winning racecars in SCCA and NASA. Proven track record.

You need to stop regurgitating marketing information and acting like you know something because of it

 

He's not asking about the PSS9's. The Neuspeed kit is just a progressive spring on a standard, non-adjustable damping Bilstein Damper. It has height adjustement only.

I have the PSS9's on my S2000. I have torn one a part and dyno'd them, so I am probably the only one here who really has any info on them.

 

Just giving straight untampered info so you'd know it wasnt made up.

I'm sorry Michael Schumaucher

 

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Any idiot can copy and paste.

You keep throwing out the "koni+gc sucks" without any solid reasoning.

 

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So you believe everything you read in magazine and internet advertisements?

 

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Wait, wait, there was reasoning. It looked like the shock must've blown, so the guy spontaneously lost control when he dodged oncoming traffic or something, remember?

 

Yep, my bad ment to say variable damper.

 

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Ok and? It doenst change while you're driving. You set it on the top of the shock.

 

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im sure itll be a good setup and youll be happy. buy em and let use know how you like em.