Was up honda heads just wonderin i got a B16b in mah eg hatch wit regular bolt ons, Dc JDm 4-1 Header, 2.5 Apexi Piping wit es muffler, AEM Short Ram, JG Cam Gears, wit a P28 ECU Chipped, but i want more torque wat do u honda guys suggest???

 

2 things........... sell the block get either an ls or b20 block or get a turbo kit hope this helped

 

But i hear that the compression on the ctr to high for ls or b20 i heard it will blow

 

compression is way too high your right you could always stroke or bore it . You could turbo a ls or b20 without problems as long as its done right(not half assed), they dont blow up unless timing or fuel is wrong or someone trys to push it to the limit on stock **** or for that matter even built **** pushed to the max or inproperly tuned will go bye bye

 

tuning its all in the tune make sure u go to the right guy to have it done

 

you could just throw a ls/b20 crank in there run jdm itr pistons different cams, header, etc. but then again, why did you buy a "semi-built" motor if you're just going to redo the design? by the way, you ever go to Carson Tapioca Express?

 

Every now and then i go up there but alot of people hit me up to race and i dont like to race i just to cruise around but if someone rolls up on me i go bye bye lol

 

spoon sells a b16b stroker kit, its not overly priced, toda sells one for like twice the price. it should make your engine a b18b, you can fool all your friends and say you have just a b18b and they'll think you have a crappy non vtec ls motor, then you can pwn them all.

 

swap in gsr/itr rods and crank. then youll have a 1.8. This will give you about a 20ft/lb increase in torque also...
Or you could sleeve and bore it keep the B16b's stroke and gain displacement through the bore increase.

 

im gonna have to vote for ls crank and rods into your existing block. my room mate did this to his b16b...and WOW. that engine got up and moved! his car was pretty stripped out, but it still suprised me. get it tuned very well though. high compression + no tune = wasted effort when it blows up.

ps. anyone that says you can't do that on pump gas is full of it. the one i helped build has run for a year and a half problem free. 93 octane. the only thing he has done to it is change the oil when it was due (he does it every 2800 miles). compression tested about a month ago, same as when we put it together. good luck man.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLaCkMaNEg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Every now and then i go up there but alot of people hit me up to race and i dont like to race i just to cruise around but if someone rolls up on me i go bye bye lol</TD></TR></TABLE> i heard you claim you ran 12s at the track.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UNKNOWN_MEMBER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i heard you claim you ran 12s at the track. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Its not how you stand by your car, its how you race your car

 

Use the LS crank, rods, and p30's.

 

.....better i/h/e and cams will get you there.
For better down low pull, displacement and stroke will get you the oomph.

A quick fix is a 4.9 final drive and close gears like 99-00 si/ usdm itr gears.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLaCkMaNEg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But i hear that the compression on the ctr to high for ls or b20 i heard it will blow</TD></TR></TABLE>

The compression is determined by a number of factors and swapping shortblocks will have an effect. Remember that the CTR head is a PR3 head and uses the same combustion chambers as the B16A.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and close gears like 99-00 si/ usdm itr gears.</TD></TR></TABLE>

CTR gear ratios = US ITR gear ratios

 

swap in a itr or gsr crank.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLaCkMaNEg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But i hear that the compression on the ctr to high for ls or b20 i heard it will blow</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not true.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2quikmotorwerks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You could turbo a ls or b20 without problems as long as its done right(not half assed), they dont blow up unless timing or fuel is wrong or someone trys to push it to the limit on stock **** or for that matter even built **** pushed to the max or inproperly tuned will go bye bye</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can also turbo a higher compression VTEC motor w/out problems.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by super_nguyen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">spoon sells a b16b stroker kit, its not overly priced, toda sells one for like twice the price. it should make your engine a b18b, you can fool all your friends and say you have just a b18b and they'll think you have a crappy non vtec ls motor, then you can pwn them all. </TD></TR></TABLE>

It would make his motor closer to a B18C. Swapping the internals wouldn't change the block stamp. He has a CTR motor, not an LS.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Not true.

You can also turbo a higher compression VTEC motor w/out problems.


It would make his motor closer to a B18C. Swapping the internals wouldn't change the block stamp. He has a CTR motor, not an LS.</TD></TR></TABLE>yeah you could turbo a high compression motor but why would you want to ,sure you could drive the car on the street if you have deep *** pockets and can keep the tank full with 116 oct or better, not to mention what it would cost to build it reliably

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2quikmotorwerks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah you could turbo a high compression motor but why would you want to ,sure you could drive the car on the street if you have deep *** pockets and can keep the tank full with 116 oct or better, not to mention what it would cost to build it reliably </TD></TR></TABLE>

Really? We run custom turbo kits on GSR, B16, and ITR motors all day, everyday on nasty So Cal 91 w/out issue. All in the tuning, and knowing the motors boundries.

 

Thx guys for the tips on gettin more torque out of mah motor i think im going to go wit the Spoon Stroker kit wit ITB's but thx alot guys and i dont want to go turbo want to keep it all motor so i can drive daily

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Really? We run custom turbo kits on GSR, B16, and ITR motors all day, everyday on nasty So Cal 91 w/out issue. All in the tuning, and knowing the motors boundries.</TD></TR></TABLE>yeah so do i but your talking bout b16's, gsr's itr's all under 11:1 this cat has a ctr anywayz yeah they run and they run strong until you get a few broken ring lands which happens to most of the stock piston honda motors when you go boost no matter how its tuned the pistons are the weakest link

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2quikmotorwerks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah so do i but your talking bout b16's, gsr's itr's all under 11:1 this cat has a ctr anywayz yeah they run and they run strong until you get a few broken ring lands which happens to most of the stock piston honda motors when you go boost no matter how its tuned the pistons are the weakest link </TD></TR></TABLE>

Right on, we'll just agree to disagree

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLaCkMaNEg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thx guys for the tips on gettin more torque out of mah motor i think im going to go wit the Spoon Stroker kit wit ITB's but thx alot guys and i dont want to go turbo want to keep it all motor so i can drive daily </TD></TR></TABLE>

The Spoon stroker kit for the B16B is little more than a balanced ITR rotating assembly. I'd spend the money on a GSR crank and a good set of lightweight pistons and rods before I'd fork out the cash for the Spoon kit.

 

you might as well do it right, 2liter

 

I dont people y is it that everyone talks bad about the CTR motor when its a damn good motor but it seems like everyone is always on the GSR, ITR, or B16a, or even Ls, B20, no one gives love to the CTR Motor y is that and its fast than all of those except the ITR???