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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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I don't know if anyone remember, but i post a while back about the idle problem i was having, some suggested the "whack hack", that helped a little, but now when i come to a complete stop, the car shut off, with and without A/C on ...

Do you think is the MAP sensor,? should i buy the new one? how much you think honda is going to change just to check the car?...

When i bought the car, the seller told me about the problem, but he said the car start doin that after he took the after market intake off and replace it with the OEM one ..... ( i think the guy had AEM v2)

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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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Did you reset your ECU and do "Idle Learn Procedure" like we told you?
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sideways2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you reset your ECU and do "Idle Learn Procedure" like we told you?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes i did, i follow the "whack hack" guide from sk2i.com
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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you mean "map whack"

if the problem only started after removable of the aem, i would see if the stock intake is installed properly. something maybe loose
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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So what do u think Nish? TPS out of whack, or does he have to actually manually re-adjust his idle.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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i wouldnt ask Nish he doesnt know kakapopo
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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Ok Oz. What do YOU say?
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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i say good day!!!! LMAO ... ders a lot to look @ ... bad spark plug can cause bad idle, dirty air filter, fuel filter, vacuum lines, etc. i wouldnt worry about map sensor cuz the car is fairly new
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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The reason I mention Idle Learn is because they tell you to disconnect the battery when you put on the AEM intake, if I remember right. That technically resets the ECU, so that could be it.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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i dont see the reason why you have to disconnect the battery inorder to install an intake ... maybe if something to do with electrical stuff then i can see you have to disconnect..
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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No seriously I remember it.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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should I take the car to the honda dealer?
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Y2K_S2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont see the reason why you have to disconnect the battery inorder to install an intake ... maybe if something to do with electrical stuff then i can see you have to disconnect..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Our ecu is too damn smart. It has its advantages and disadvantages. It does not like mods instantly. Why? It needs time to adapt itself. One easy way for assuring this is to disconnect the battery for a couple mins. This will reset the ecu. The next step is to reconnect the batter and turn the car. You MUST let the car idle for a minimum of 5 minutes. This is so it relearns idling. I'd go out for a drive, vary the throttle alot. Remember, the ecu has learned the idle but it is doing some minor tweaking to the AF ratios based on intake, weather, electrical, and exhaust components. This part of the relearning is not done in one drive. It usually takes a couple. The more your vary the throttle and rpm's, the faster it will relearn. This should be done with any mods. Sometimes cars have a slightly rough idle or may feel slow compared to before. The reason is the ecu is not adjusting to what you just did because it does not know you did. In these cases, the ecu can take days/weeks to relearn. Doing a proper reset shortens the period. Most of this crap is found in the helm's.


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Since your car is shutting off, I would say it has something to do with the ecu but more than likely a separate component that is attached to it. Its prob some stupid electrical wire or switch that has gone bad. Is your car throwing any check engine light codes?
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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nop, the engine light or maintenance light is off ... i did the " MAP whack" twice. =/
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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im confused the hell out!!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nishant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Our ecu is too damn smart</TD></TR></TABLE>

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nishant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The reason is the ecu is not adjusting to what you just did because it does not know you did. In these cases, the ecu can take days/weeks to relearn. Doing a proper reset shortens the period.
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umm yeah whatever lol ... i didnt do any of what you said when i installed my I/H/E and whatever mods i slap in my car... my car runs fine after all the installs ...

typerkill : my car shuts off too sometimes when its low oil pressure ... oil pressure @ idle is 20 in my defi, but once it goes lower than 10 it'll just shut off itself

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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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The ecu reacts differently for diff mods, diff cars. Example of my ecu, over here on the east coast in the spring and fall we have temperature fluctuations. Its pretty much 85 degrees on day then 50 the next. This goes on for a couple weeks here. During those days, my car literally runs like ****. The idle is rough and the car is slow. I have noticed this only happens during times when the temperature changes rapidly. I would try the ecu reset but it would do me no good since the next day it would change itself again. Upon doing research, our ecu does change with temperature. Have you ever noticed when its about 65-75 out, our cars run much better than when its hot? If the temp would change gradually as it should with the season, this wouldn't be a problem for me. Stupid El Nino screws up our temperature. I know my car will start running like **** soon as its about 80-85 during the day but at night it drops to low 50's.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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i dont have that problem at all eventhough, i live in chicago and its crazy weather
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Y2K_S2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont have that problem at all eventhough, i live in chicago and its crazy weather </TD></TR></TABLE>

I did earlier this year in the spring. The temp is starting to fluctuate here but no problems yet which is good.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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the car has 32k miles, you think is time you change the intake filter?

or maybe a tune-up?
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