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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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So Acura tells me today that I must buy every thing seperatly (Pressure Plate, Pilot Bearing, Clutch Plate, and another bearing?) becuase the Type-r does not have a "clutch kit" where everything comes in one package.

I need some input on this becuase I feel that they have been trying to rip me off from the start. My car is currently in the shop becuase I am having the input bearings replace under warranty. And since the transmission is already apart I wanted them to install the clutch.

First im told that it will cost $699.00 just in parts not including labor, then I went through this whole ordeal with the parts manager and managed to get a 20% discount with my busienss lisence on the parts. Which came out to $338.00 from $418.00. and on top of that the bastard is charging me 1 hour of labor to install the clutch. It would not take an hour would it?!?!? I never did that my self.

Please any input would help in dealing with these ********; I cant wait to get that customer satisfaction slip and I mark that bitch with the worst ratings. Any way please any info would be greatly appreciated as always. HT

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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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From what I can see all of these parts can be had seperately... I don't see a "kit".




003 22100-P73-005 FLYWHEEL
004 22200-P73-025 DISK, FRICTION
005 22300-P73-005 DISK, PRESSURE
008 90011-PH3-000 BOLT, FLANGE (12MM)
011 90034-689-000 BOLT (8MM)
013 91006-634-008 BEARING
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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Correct, there is no "kit" available.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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I ordered everything together. PP, flywheel, clutch disc, and new FW bolts. Already had a brand bew TO bearing.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Parts are expensive. ! hour labor rate is decent, if everything is already ripped apart then it doesnt take an hour. If you have to take it apart then you'd spend way more than an hour. I dont think youre getting a bad deal, in fact a pretty good one.

338+90(labor rate)= pretty good.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KOALA YUMMIES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I ordered everything together. PP, flywheel, clutch disc, and new FW bolts. Already had a brand bew TO bearing. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What did you pay? If you dont mind me asking.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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What was the price that you guys paid for the parts and how much was the labor if you recall?!?
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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With a wholesale account it was right around $500 even. I think it was like seriously $499, but there might have been one or two extra parts on that order.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KOALA YUMMIES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With a wholesale account it was right around $500 even. I think it was like seriously $499, but there might have been one or two extra parts on that order. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Youre sweating it for nothing!!!! Be happy that your dealership is helping you not screwing you. They could charge you alot more on labor!!!
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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I did the work dude, thats parts cost only.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KOALA YUMMIES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I ordered everything together. PP, flywheel, clutch disc, and new FW bolts. Already had a brand bew TO bearing. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why did you buy a new flywheel when you can just get the old one resurfaced? Isn't the flywheel pretty expensive?
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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A lot of work the dealership did for the prev owner was really poor, didnt want to take the chances, didnt want to go aftermarket on a predominantly stock setup etc.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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Thanks so much for the input, It is just very stange how that handled the whole thing. I feel like they were just testing me and seeing how much they could get out of my pocket. With the varying prices I was given and the different percentages for wholesale discount.

I just dont think that getting service performed on your car should be a barganing process, it should be spelled out in a procedure but thats just me. Thanks for the information and once again put my worries to rest hahahahaha sounds so philosophic.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by type-r 01 886 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I just dont think that getting service performed on your car should be a barganing process, it should be spelled out in a procedure but thats just me. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats why they are charging you "1 book hour" for the clutch install labor.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Default Re: No such thing as ITR OEM Clutch kit? Only parted? (98 Spec R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KOALA YUMMIES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did the work dude, thats parts cost only. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Understood but you paid 500 bucks in parts, he's getting them cheaper and installed under the price you paid. He was complaining, I was just telling him he wasnt getting raped on the deal.

type-r 01 886, The dealer pays a certain price for parts, unless they screwed something up they will never go lower than there price. Say a flywheel costs 300 dollars dealer cost, they sell it to you for 600 bucks, a mechanic that works there can get it for 450. Any way you look at it the stealership is making money. If you bitch and moan enough and the dealership has been slow they will give you a discount on the price for parts, but in the end they still come out on top.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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just do it yourself.....

BUT, 1 hour of labor for clutch install is good... they need to make some money
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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Default Re: No such thing as ITR OEM Clutch kit? Only parted? (type-r 01 886)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by type-r 01 886 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So Acura tells me today that I must buy every thing seperatly....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just call Len at Baranco Acura and buy the parts. They're fast and it'll be cheaper than you think.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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$700 for an OEM clutch? Holy crap. And here I was thinking $450 for a Clutchmasters was a lot of money...
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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I paid a similar price for an ITR clutch from honda 2 months back. I think it worked out around $320 inc taxes. I fitted it myself so saved on labour, but normally any garage/mechanic is going to charge for at least 4 hours labour for fitting a clutch, as thats roughly on average how long the job takes, so being charge only 1hr labour is a pretty good deal!
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$700 for an OEM clutch? ...</TD></TR></TABLE>

If they persist in this infamy, somebody just might publicly announce exactly what they paid for the parts.

He really should call Len.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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Call the Acura dealer that I work for, ask for Todd in parts, tell him Travis told you to call him. See what he will get it to you for.
Dealer name: Hubler Acura in Indy
Phone #: 317-883-4560

I paid about $280 for my oem clutch for my R, but I get 10% over cost.
Also we dont charge any extra to install aclutch if the trans is already out. That is called customer service.

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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97SpecR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also we dont charge any extra to install aclutch if the trans is already out. That is called customer service.

Travis</TD></TR></TABLE>

Integrity,
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:33 AM
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I would recommend getting a good aftermarket clutch and light flywheel for a little less $ and a lot more fun to drive.

Action 1md and fidanza/ clutchmasters 9lb flywheel is just that much better than stock.....
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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at first i thought it was a great price to have clutch replaced for $90 until i found out they're charging you 1 hour labor, write a letter to acura or go to their highest boss, they should not charge you any money if transmission has been removed, thats just not right and why i stay away from service dept of acura dealerships.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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I used to have an ACT heavy duty pressure plate and clutch along with the ACT 9 lbs flywheel and it was definately not more fun to drive. I stalled a bit more often, the clutch pedal was so heavy and lost a lot of the ability to feel where the clutch was grabbing in, and since it was in on the car I first tracked it was bad because along with crappy seats and sliding all over the place it made smooth clutch releases very difficult.

Unless I was putting down a lot more power than stock theres no reason I'd ever need to switch from stock. Not to mention it will last a lot longer than those crappy Exedys that I've seen people post up going out at 15K mi.
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