gsr vs turbo single cam
kinda stuck in a dilema.
im currently rockin a stock gsr with some boltons. but its got some high mileage. about 150k. i usually dont bring it above 6k rpms anymore.
now i could pretty much get rid of it and go for a turbo single (ex). since the singles cost alot less id be able to push on it harder.
this is going in an eg hatch by the way.
im currently rockin a stock gsr with some boltons. but its got some high mileage. about 150k. i usually dont bring it above 6k rpms anymore.
now i could pretty much get rid of it and go for a turbo single (ex). since the singles cost alot less id be able to push on it harder.
this is going in an eg hatch by the way.
yeah if you didn't have anything at first I would say it's cheaper to make power with the SOHC turbo, but since you already have a GSR, just take care of it and rebuild it. Less headaches.
I smoked many GSR swapped hatches in my d16z6 turbo...
Plus, my car is a coupe and the engine was stock other than headstuds and a clutch.
I say, go with a d16z6, get a T3/04e .48ar turbo, tune it to 12psi, and go out and smoke people.
If you have the money throw some forged internals in there and crank the boost up.
This topic has been covered millions of times before though. There are threads with pages and pages of people arguing over this topic. What it comes down to is what you want.
Plus, my car is a coupe and the engine was stock other than headstuds and a clutch.
I say, go with a d16z6, get a T3/04e .48ar turbo, tune it to 12psi, and go out and smoke people.
If you have the money throw some forged internals in there and crank the boost up.
This topic has been covered millions of times before though. There are threads with pages and pages of people arguing over this topic. What it comes down to is what you want.
my car is daily driven and i pretty much need it everyday for work/school.
well if i rebuild the gsr i probably wouldnt wanna go stock internals so its going to be a little more costly then that. plus the time to build it. would prob take a minute.
i can get a complete single vtec right now for 200. (complete running swap).
then i could sell the gsr head, plus b16 tranny, plus other parts for turbo money.
well if i rebuild the gsr i probably wouldnt wanna go stock internals so its going to be a little more costly then that. plus the time to build it. would prob take a minute.
i can get a complete single vtec right now for 200. (complete running swap).
then i could sell the gsr head, plus b16 tranny, plus other parts for turbo money.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRcivicGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my car is daily driven and i pretty much need it everyday for work/school.
well if i rebuild the gsr i probably wouldnt wanna go stock internals so its going to be a little more costly then that. plus the time to build it. would prob take a minute.
i can get a complete single vtec right now for 200. (complete running swap).
then i could sell the gsr head, plus b16 tranny, plus other parts for turbo money.</TD></TR></TABLE>A stock SOHC is NOT reliable under boost.
well if i rebuild the gsr i probably wouldnt wanna go stock internals so its going to be a little more costly then that. plus the time to build it. would prob take a minute.
i can get a complete single vtec right now for 200. (complete running swap).
then i could sell the gsr head, plus b16 tranny, plus other parts for turbo money.</TD></TR></TABLE>A stock SOHC is NOT reliable under boost.
SOHC Motor $100-$500
Sleeves $700
Pistons $500
Rods $300-$400
Turbo Kit $2000-$4000
Hondata $700-$1000
Services + Tuning $500
Adds up to 7,600 and should put out around 300 whp and maybe 200 pounds of torque at 100% on 20(+-) psi
Rebuilding your GSR would cost about 7,000
it would push 300 whp and 200 pounds of torque at around 50% on 10(+-) psi with potential of 400+ hp at 100%
Would you want a maxed out SOHC or a GSR that is not even peaking yet and has room for more?
Sleeves $700
Pistons $500
Rods $300-$400
Turbo Kit $2000-$4000
Hondata $700-$1000
Services + Tuning $500
Adds up to 7,600 and should put out around 300 whp and maybe 200 pounds of torque at 100% on 20(+-) psi
Rebuilding your GSR would cost about 7,000
it would push 300 whp and 200 pounds of torque at around 50% on 10(+-) psi with potential of 400+ hp at 100%
Would you want a maxed out SOHC or a GSR that is not even peaking yet and has room for more?
SOHC Motor $100-$500
Sleeves $700
Pistons $500
Rods $300-$400
Turbo Kit $2000-$4000
Hondata $700-$1000
Services + Tuning $500
Adds up to 7,600 and should put out around 300 whp and maybe 200 pounds of torque at 100% on 20(+-) psi
All Motor GSR
Sleeves $700
Pistons $500
Rods $300-$400
Headwork $200-$400
Hondata $700-$1000
Services + Tuning $500
Thats about 3,500 that should give you a little over 220 hp and 170 trq on a aggressive tune
Sleeves $700
Pistons $500
Rods $300-$400
Turbo Kit $2000-$4000
Hondata $700-$1000
Services + Tuning $500
Adds up to 7,600 and should put out around 300 whp and maybe 200 pounds of torque at 100% on 20(+-) psi
All Motor GSR
Sleeves $700
Pistons $500
Rods $300-$400
Headwork $200-$400
Hondata $700-$1000
Services + Tuning $500
Thats about 3,500 that should give you a little over 220 hp and 170 trq on a aggressive tune
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, where do you get sleeves for 700?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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84mm-87mm
$851.00
F/H series
up to 89mm Econo
$851.00 $751.00
IM trying to work something out with GE MFG where i can get them to do bore/hone, o ring and/or shipping. Vince and Ted at GE MFG have been so good to me and im just passing along the great deals to you guys.
anyone interestedGary Gardella 8.50s
JJ olsen 8.90s
Lisa Kubo. 8.90s
Bruce Mortenson 8.60s
JERRY BUILT 11sec street driven
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Best option right there.
I bet every one here that just says 'oh, just rebuild your motor, or swap some pistons' has never rebuilt a motor, or knows what really is involved in it.
Best option right there.
I bet every one here that just says 'oh, just rebuild your motor, or swap some pistons' has never rebuilt a motor, or knows what really is involved in it.
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150k.. Pffft. Its just broken in. Beat that horse till it bleeds.
150k.. Pffft. Its just broken in. Beat that horse till it bleeds.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BuilttB18C5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would just rebuild the GSR motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BuilttB18C5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would just rebuild the GSR motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>i second that one B18c all the way and call it a day
Yep 225,xxx and im in vtec every chance i get with no problems.....I say u do whateva is best on ur pockets. I read somewhere that someone ran a 12.0 sumthin with a d in his hatch and it wasnt built, with a lil greddy turbo at that. Its all on u though. Good luck with whateva u do bra.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chunty Butt Kevin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SOHC Motor $100-$500
Sleeves $700
Pistons $500
Rods $300-$400
Turbo Kit $2000-$4000
Hondata $700-$1000
Services + Tuning $500
Adds up to 7,600 and should put out around 300 whp and maybe 200 pounds of torque at 100% on 20(+-) psi
All Motor GSR
Sleeves $700
Pistons $500
Rods $300-$400
Headwork $200-$400
Hondata $700-$1000
Services + Tuning $500
Thats about 3,500 that should give you a little over 220 hp and 170 trq on a aggressive tune
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Where did you get 700-1000$ for hondata?? haha. Your way off.
Sleeves $700
Pistons $500
Rods $300-$400
Turbo Kit $2000-$4000
Hondata $700-$1000
Services + Tuning $500
Adds up to 7,600 and should put out around 300 whp and maybe 200 pounds of torque at 100% on 20(+-) psi
All Motor GSR
Sleeves $700
Pistons $500
Rods $300-$400
Headwork $200-$400
Hondata $700-$1000
Services + Tuning $500
Thats about 3,500 that should give you a little over 220 hp and 170 trq on a aggressive tune
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Where did you get 700-1000$ for hondata?? haha. Your way off.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chunty Butt Kevin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SOHC Motor $100-$500
Sleeves $700
Pistons $500
Rods $300-$400
Turbo Kit $2000-$4000
Hondata $700-$1000
Services + Tuning $500
Adds up to 7,600 and should put out around 300 whp and maybe 200 pounds of torque at 100% on 20(+-) psi
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Sohc motor 500
Vitara pistons 120
Scat Rods H Beam- 270
Turbo Kit 3000
Uberdata= Free
Tunning 500
= 300whp
The setup u posted has a higher potential then 300whp, .
Sleeves $700
Pistons $500
Rods $300-$400
Turbo Kit $2000-$4000
Hondata $700-$1000
Services + Tuning $500
Adds up to 7,600 and should put out around 300 whp and maybe 200 pounds of torque at 100% on 20(+-) psi
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Sohc motor 500
Vitara pistons 120
Scat Rods H Beam- 270
Turbo Kit 3000
Uberdata= Free
Tunning 500
= 300whp
The setup u posted has a higher potential then 300whp, .
You could def build a turbo D to kick the living **** out of an NA GSR, and for less. Build a turbo kit and do all the management yourself, buying a kit is for ppl with more money than brains.
But honestly, 150k on your motor isn't that much.
But honestly, 150k on your motor isn't that much.



