HELP....

mase came over to england to tune several cars, 3 which were turbo'ed mine included!

drove car home, seemed GREAT! 3 DAYS LATER, was going to the local drag strip, went to put fuel in...... car wouldnt start! NOTHING! got the laptop out to check and there was nothing on the EMS.... ANYWAY, i got hold of mase and he sent me the cal file.

got car runnin again! seemed slower than before tho... did some data loggin to send to Mase (as he requested)

KNOCK sensor hitting 4 volts
and now my coolant fluid has turned a real brown mucky colour!

please help!
i cant get hold of mase either now
i inclose the cal file from mase


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THIS IS THE LINK TO THE AEM FORUM
http://forum.aempower.com/bbs/...art=0

 

Saw your post on the aem forum. Mase didn't get a hold of you yet? Hope this gets resolved. GL.

 

pop goes the head gasket

 

Wasnt there another one like this? How come all of you guys headgaskets keep popping?

 

if the car was driving fine and then the ems took a **** and the program went blank how is that mases fault? im sure he sent you back the same exact program it was running great on.

I would think you would have the sense to not beat on the car if the ems is droping the program and the car is running strange. Did you ever think you blew a headgasket contaminated the oil and the knocking may be from the bearings ?

Now you want to toss your problem on mase? if I was him I wouldnt waste my time helping you after makign a bullshit thread ...its not his fault or his problem

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wasnt there another one like this? How come all of you guys headgaskets keep popping?</TD></TR></TABLE>

whos all of you guys? My headgaskets sweet

 

WHY WOULD THE AEM JUST BLANK OUT????

MAYBE U SHOULD SEND THAT BITCH BACK!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D@nnY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

whos all of you guys? My headgaskets sweet </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was talking about that other broad from England...she was having headgasket issues too. Headgaskets don't just pop for no reason...but oh ya, AEM Sucks

 

If the EMS 'blanked out', how could the car run? Does the AEM have some kind of back up map?

 

I think there is confusion here. He could of meant he found no errors, or maybe he didnt know how to connect to the EMS and got the impression it was empty. The AEM doesnt just blank out.

 

I have heard of several AEM controlled EVOs having the ECU randomly shut off while the car was running. Happened to a local and he had to shut the car off, disconnect the battery, reconnect and reload the map to get the car to start...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Muckman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think there is confusion here. He could of meant he found no errors, or maybe he didnt know how to connect to the EMS and got the impression it was empty. The AEM doesnt just blank out. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Unfortunately this has happened to me twice this year. I have no idea what goes wrong, and neither does the tuner. When he plugs the pc up to the AEM it has a completely different map and it's not a base map either. Don't know what gives. I pay too much money for this **** to happen. I posted a topic like this several months ago and hardly anyone responded.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I was talking about that other broad from England...she was having headgasket issues too. Headgaskets don't just pop for no reason...but oh ya, AEM Sucks </TD></TR></TABLE>

english head gaskets suck .... I hope you arent driving the car with it knocking and with a blow head gasket...

hopefully you find the problem but you should go about it in a different way and maybe rethink the title of the thread next time

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTC_CiViC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the EMS 'blanked out', how could the car run? Does the AEM have some kind of back up map?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think he said that the car wouldnt run, and we he connected to the aem it was blank. then he reloaded the map and it would run but wasnt the same...

if you hit one wrong button on the aem software you can completely screw up the entire map.....

If your coolant has oil in it you shouldnt be driving the car let alone trying to fix the aem until you get the motor fixed. But I see in the aem forum your sgtill driving the car.... you should put it on 30 psi and see if it cleans up

 

Nathan,

You need to understand a few things.

First and foremost, I get a very large volume of Emails, PM's, IM's etc. each and every day.

many get automatically tossed into the bulk mail if the subject lines are the same.

Others who dont have subjects or something that doesnt attract my attention usually dont even get read.

When trying to get in touch with me, please provide a good subject line.


Secondly.

The last time i touched your car, the car was not knocking. I have no control over anything you change on that ECU, nor can i be responsible for any changes that occur.

I can only help you on my end.

You datalog of your knock goes as follows.



So as you can see, if your car is knocking, its not because of my tuning. None of my cars i tune have issues with knocking from tuning, Period.

be very careful with the AEM EMS. you can change something without noticing and your whole map will go to ****. you also need to recheck your base timing.


Please email me if you wish to discuss this further.

 

sometimes...ems just scares me....but i still want it. muahaha

nice thing you finally got around to reaching mase. i saw this on the AEM forum like a week or two ago.

 

if you go screwing around in the full list of options its easy to turn off options by accident. if you do turn off the right stuff the ems wont save any thing you change and if you turn off some other mess the ems wont allow the computer to download the calibration.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaze the chemi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Unfortunately this has happened to me twice this year. I have no idea what goes wrong, and neither does the tuner. When he plugs the pc up to the AEM it has a completely different map and it's not a base map either. Don't know what gives. I pay too much money for this **** to happen. I posted a topic like this several months ago and hardly anyone responded. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i had the same thing happen to my aem on my evo... i laugh when people try and tell me AEM is as good as MoTeC.

it takes 5 mins just to DL the datalog...

2 mins to connect to the ECU...

what a piece of ****.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SEFIxCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


it takes 5 mins just to DL the datalog...

2 mins to connect to the ECU...

what a piece of ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>



it's that slow!?

 

I have ems Is anyone else having this problem?

 

wow, I never heard of these problems with the AEM, this is stored into my memory, viva la Neptune (when the next one is released).

 

hey mase, i thought posting this on honda-tech would get your attention!!! i wqas right!!!

1st of all, i HAVE NOT touched that map you sent me!!!!

2nd, you dont tune by knock sensor remeber, well thats what you told us! also the map you sent me was not setup for knock!

3rd, to all you **** head, posting **** about this post, have you knobbs even read the AEM forum? i don think so

4th people on the aem forum have contacted you about this! the post has been on aem now for over 3 weeks! whats the story with that?

explain please!!!!

you and i know mase.........

 

Problem with AEM is not the unit, but the users. It's too easy to get some "basic" information of the system for DIY'ers to unleash hell and not knowing what the hell they have just done.

The common mistake is users not knowing how to sync the mechanical timing with the EMS say after they replaced or reinstalled the distributor. Hell, I've seen this happen to Uberdata users as well. Just plain stupidity.

 

another bs parameter in the AEM is ign compenstion delay...

it can't even keep up with the signals coming from the timing mechanisms.

i have a pretty long lists of complaints with this EMS...

for the money, it does an acceptable job, but like tony says... its "almost engine management"

i'm going to sell this thing soon and get a hydra

on connect time, when you first connect to the ecu it downloads the entire file which can take 2 mins... once its loaded it connect instantaneously, but often times like people report, the file will be corrupt and what will display is some totally different file. the correct file however, must really be in the ECU otherwise it wouldn't run.

to download the 512k memory off the ecu yes... it does take 5 mins to download the entire thing... its like being on 56k internet it sucks.

randomly... 1 out of 30 times the software will crash when your datalogging... sometimes when you datalog the parameters you specify will not record.

on the timing sync at high rpm... even with the ign compensation delay done correctly... the timing still cannot match the stock ecu's timing. On the obd2 pocket logger the stock ecu will ramp from 4 degrees to 20 degrees at redline... put these numbers in your EMS and you will blow your **** up... the numbers in the EMS need to be lower... but put it on the dyno... and those low numbers are correct for mbt.

this tells me that the numbers at high rpm on the EMS are meaningless. referenced to nothing, nonsense numbers.


Nevertheless, the car drives really smooth, and makes power...

But comparable to motec no way.

Connecting is done instantaneously, downloading megs of datalog files is done in 5 secs. Never crashes, rock solid timing. motec = precision, simple and conscise.


Modified by SEFIxCivic at 12:01 AM 10/4/2005

 

pickup delay comp is due to the inherent lag of magnetic pickups... if you dont use a magnetic pickup this parameter does nothing at all.

if your ems lost its programming its something you did. i have tuned a **** ton of ems's and never seen this... i have seen damn near every issue anyone has ever had due to the ems. no ecu will work with a monkey behind the the keyboard.

it takes about 2 mins to download a full internal log and about 40sec to completly redownload the calibration from the ems to the computer (assuming you have a real serial port and not a pos usb adapter). and if you pull up the proper calibration before you connect then it checks the checksum and dosnt have to download the cal, connects instantly.