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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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I know this has been asked before, but I have another question for you too.

I was wondering what kind of coil-over setup I should get for around $1100.

I know you recommend Ground Control and Koni Yellows, but I also have to pay for install, and I don't think my budget would allow for that. What is a slightly cheaper way to go if possible??

Also, How much could I lower my car without it rubbing on the fender when I turn??

I have 205/45/16 tires on my car, in case that helps.

Thanks!!!!
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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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Do it yourself. Its not hard at all. You save money and you learn at the same time.
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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 04:45 PM
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say what??? - shop doing a coil over install?? - man do it yourself - its so easy and a good first project to learn from - Once you do it youll never take your car to a shop for anything - learn, save money, and have fun
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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 05:24 PM
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Yeah man, if you have an autozone near your house they "lend" tools for just a refundable deposit. get anything you dont have and go at it...it's really easy, and like everyone says, you'll learn alot. about the rubbing...unless you go with some narrow *** tires, you're gonna rub every now and then, its just a fact of life. after a few weeks, your driving habits will adjust and you'll find that you rarely ever rub. I'm dropped 1.75 on all four corners with 205/45 tires, and i only rub if for some reason I'm braking hard through a turn.
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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 05:24 PM
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What kind of tools do I need, and How hard would it be.

I am only 16, the only mod I have done myself is putting my rims on my car, and putting in hyper white headlights.

Also, What tool would I need??
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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 07:22 PM
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at autozone borrow the spring compressor - then you need an assortment of sockets with extensions - just your basic tools - back is easier than the front so you might wanna start there - if you want, email me anytime while your doing it and ill walk you threw it - very very easy and must do it yourself if you ever want to start working on your car yourself - once you finish up youll totally understand your suspension and how everything works and comes together - ive lowered too many cars to count - i showed my g/f how when i lowered her teg and i know she could do it with out me now - so have fun
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 06:55 AM
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You may also wanna run a search on this board. Many people have posted excellent "How To's" on this. It is a very easy mod. About a 4 hour gig with a friend for a first timer.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:50 AM
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if you drop your car too low it will be slower.my friends hatch has ground control coil overs and he had them turned all the way down on 15 inch wheels so the car was slammed on the ground and the guy at a local shop said he was giving 34% of his power with the car that low
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:52 AM
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giving up 34%
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 09:22 AM
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giving up 34%
You can edit your posts you know. BTW 34% seems a bit much. I can see why some would be lost considering you're loosing more power at the CV points, but 34%..I dunno. As for the tools.. spring compressor, some sockets, and some confidence is all you should need. good luck
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 05:12 PM
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I have never heard of any power losses due to lowering a vehicle. Could you please elaborate or give some sort of logical explaination? Thanks!
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 07:08 AM
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sorry my friends hatch doesnt have camber correction and its dropped completely on the ground so the wheels bow alot and the shop around my house said that since the car is so low and the camber is so off that it is costing him alot of power
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 07:59 AM
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I'm sorry for being a pain in the *** but that still doesn't explain anything. I want some specific info on this matter. It just sounds like that "34%" thing just came out of nowhere. I'm just the type of person who needs proof behind numbers. It's the accountant in me. I can understand the handling characteristics of the vehicle would be drastically altered but I can not phathom as to why power would be affected. If ya can't explain then you might wanna go back to this shop and have them do some explaining....
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 08:15 AM
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Teins $900, with out pillow bolt mounts . the rest for labor
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 09:08 AM
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$1100? I paid $830 for Ground Control coilovers and Koni Yellow shocks to my door.
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 09:44 AM
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well think about it the car is front wheel drive and the front wheels are bowed so there for they have to work harder and your giving up power.thats the only thing i can think of he just told us that with the car that low ur giving up 34% power. and it makes sense to me so oh well if you dont believe it im just sayin what the shop told us.
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 09:54 AM
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I would think that lowering you car would give you power back. Lowering the car puts the cv joints closer to horizontal. Camber DOES NOT take away power.

The only thing I can think of is that if you lower your car and DO NOT get an alignment then your tires will be toed-in too much. That robs power for sure, since they are turning in to themselves. But 34%???? That shop is stupid for just pulling imaginary numbers out of their asses.

Besides, if your buddy lowered his car "to the ground" all he cares about is looks anyway right??
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 12:44 PM
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Default Re: Lowering my civic (sihatchbackcivic1993)

giving up 34%
ha ha thats funny if anything you will gain quickness, not power but quickness. No sag so when you shift you get more traction, but loss of power... ha ha im still laughing
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 07:10 AM
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hey redracinghart the guy in bend at asian auto told wolf that he was losing 34%
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 09:11 AM
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Default Re: Lowering my civic (sihatchbackcivic1993)

wtf..34% power lost?!..no way..the car must be slam d so low its dragging the chassic along
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 10:39 AM
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Default Re: Lowering my civic (sihatchbackcivic1993)

Hahahaha I love the wanna-be scientists that work at some of these rice shops. 34% eh. LOL.

But yeah, if you drive around with 3 degrees of negative camber your tires aren't going to hook up as well, but then again I got 2.0 60s at the strip and I was dropped about 2.5-3" so whatever.
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