"Any of you guys read Sport Compact Car? In the rumors section it said since the Civic Si is so potent that Honda is going to bring the Type R version of the RSX here as well. Anybody hear anything more on this. The prospect is quite exciting."
(took from Temple of VTEC)

What We Know: There appears to be little justification behind recent speculation that Acura would be phasing this small coupe out of production, as the company plans a redesign of the vehicle which could appear on the market as early as 2006. The 2007 RSX will be fully redesigned on its current chassis, which will probably be tweaked in lieu of a replacement. The vehicle will get all-new sheet metal and possibly a revised cabin. Hopefully, Acura will do something to upgrade the vehicle's 2.0-liter inline four as well.

http://www.edmunds.com/future/....html

what do you guys think?

 

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Acura wont get rid of the RSX without something similar in size and features to replace it with.

Every car company needs an entry level vehicle.

 

LOL, the tsx would take its place as entry level. The Type R is not an entry level car...
If there is going to be a type R, I think it will be similar to the type R overseas, but might have a larger motor.
Honda =

 

i read this... it was in the "Rumors" section.

that is what i will take it as untill i see the car on US soil.

 

Acura deperately needs to bring in an RSX type R into the USDM. I think that Honda is quickly losing ground in the sport compact market. When you take a look at the numbers the STI, EVO, hell even that dinky SRT-4 are putting out these days its a shame that Honda/Acura has yet to even come close to their preformance. You drop circa $24,000 for a new type S with 201HP and FF; while an STI runs you about $33,000 and a EVO around $30,000 and you end up with significantly more HP, Torque, and all-wheel-drive. NOTE TO HONDA: Build an N/A Type R that will EAT these cars alive!!!!!!........or at least compete with them

 

they wont bring in the type r for acura, because acura is trying to be more luxurious and the the R name isnt luxurious

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmfonseca85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Acura deperately needs to bring in an RSX type R into the USDM. I think that Honda is quickly losing ground in the sport compact market. When you take a look at the numbers the STI, EVO, hell even that dinky SRT-4 are putting out these days its a shame that Honda/Acura has yet to even come close to their preformance. You drop circa $24,000 for a new type S with 201HP and FF; while an STI runs you about $33,000 and a EVO around $30,000 and you end up with significantly more HP, Torque, and all-wheel-drive. NOTE TO HONDA: Build an N/A Type R that will EAT these cars alive!!!!!!........or at least compete with them </TD></TR></TABLE>

i dont think a 2 liter NA car can compete with 2.0 and 2.5 liter engines with snails. i dont want to get all technical, but most R owners autox/road race their cars, so i'd say that R owners can drive better than people that own 300 hp cars on the track. yes, there are R owners that have never autoxed or road raced, but it's the same with sti and evo owners.

most people buy these cars and just run around on the street driving in circles and running over dinosaurs

 

http://www.edmunds.com/future/...Acura*




they have to send that over... just like the 97,98,.....00,01 ITR's lol.

BTW what are the chances that this is true?

 

They could make a N/A 2.0 to compete with an evo or an Sti. If honda wanted to spend money on buying the right parts stock then it could rev to 10k, and put down 275 to the wheels. But its up to them. Personally I think if they just gave us the current Type R, that would not be smart. They need to rebuild the internals with stronger higher reving internals to make the car compete with others.
Also I was at the Honda dealership getting my oil changed (mobil 1 Synthetic) and I saw an 06 civic ex auto with gay options like pin stripe and mud guards and interior / exterior protection (somekind of teflon coating?) and it was priced
@ 24,600. Woah... Just imagine what the sticker on the SI will be...
So instead of listen to what everyone has been saying on here, I asked someone and they said the after pin stripe and crap that the dealer puts on it the price will be closer to 28k - 30k. This is purely what they said, im not making any of this up. So all you civic SI lovers wait and see what the price will be...
So if a civic ex is 24,600 you can prob get it for closer to 22k, so if a civic si is priced @ 28k you might be able to get one for 25k? Dang I really hope this isn't true....

 

 

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that is what i will take it as untill i see the car on US soil.</TD></TR></TABLE>


atleast im not the only one that saw this. I hope this rumor is true...

 

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me too, but there has been so much speculation, and so many rumors regarding the type-r, that at this point, i really take everything i hear with a grain of salt.

but like everyone else, i hope this "rumor" is true

 

What colors will be available if the Type-r does come ashore? is BLUE BLACK AND WHITE?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TemperdSoul &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They could make a N/A 2.0 to compete with an evo or an Sti. If honda wanted to spend money on buying the right parts stock then it could rev to 10k, and put down 275 to the wheels. But its up to them. Personally I think if they just gave us the current Type R, that would not be smart. They need to rebuild the internals with stronger higher reving internals to make the car compete with others.
Also I was at the Honda dealership getting my oil changed (mobil 1 Synthetic) and I saw an 06 civic ex auto with gay options like pin stripe and mud guards and interior / exterior protection (somekind of teflon coating?) and it was priced
@ 24,600. Woah... Just imagine what the sticker on the SI will be...
So instead of listen to what everyone has been saying on here, I asked someone and they said the after pin stripe and crap that the dealer puts on it the price will be closer to 28k - 30k. This is purely what they said, im not making any of this up. So all you civic SI lovers wait and see what the price will be...
So if a civic ex is 24,600 you can prob get it for closer to 22k, so if a civic si is priced @ 28k you might be able to get one for 25k? Dang I really hope this isn't true....
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It doesnt matter how hot the new si will be. Did your dealer tell you that? Bottom line is they cannot price a civic si over the rsx-s. Remember when the EP3's came out for 19K and everyone was paying 15-16K for them? With the navi option it should be priced between the base rsx and the type-s, but NOT more than the type-s.

Doesnt the DC5-R already rev high? A redline @ 8K-8.5K is good but I dont think I want it to rev any higher than that. With people easily making 215whp with the rsx-s Acura should be able to do the same and keep the redline &gt;9K.

 

How much better would the dc5-r be than the current rsx-s (2005-2006)?

How much more hp would it have? i think the differences are very minimal. I think the R still cant compete with those other cars out there with forced induction.

 

Ehh, if they did, they'd probably sell you a Type-S with an "R" upgrade package. Osn't the motor essentially the same? I'd imagine it's just suspension and interior mods that'd make it an R thse days...


But then, I don't know anything.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Taristin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ehh, if they did, they'd probably sell you a Type-S with an "R" upgrade package. Osn't the motor essentially the same? I'd imagine it's just suspension and interior mods that'd make it an R thse days...


But then, I don't know anything.</TD></TR></TABLE>

motor will probably be rated at or around 220 hp, 140 ft/lbs tq, with a redline of 8600.

a slight difference than the current k20z1 motor.

and if they DO come over, it will more than likely be in a limited run... probably a couple thousand, if that.

and as far as colors, the only colors i've seen the dc5-r in are white and blue. but i do not know for sure.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TemperdSoul &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They could make a N/A 2.0 to compete with an evo or an Sti. If honda wanted to spend money on buying the right parts stock then it could rev to 10k, and put down 275 to the wheels. But its up to them. Personally I think if they just gave us the current Type R, that would not be smart. They need to rebuild the internals with stronger higher reving internals to make the car compete with others.
Also I was at the Honda dealership getting my oil changed (mobil 1 Synthetic) and I saw an 06 civic ex auto with gay options like pin stripe and mud guards and interior / exterior protection (somekind of teflon coating?) and it was priced
@ 24,600. Woah... Just imagine what the sticker on the SI will be...
So instead of listen to what everyone has been saying on here, I asked someone and they said the after pin stripe and crap that the dealer puts on it the price will be closer to 28k - 30k. This is purely what they said, im not making any of this up. So all you civic SI lovers wait and see what the price will be...
So if a civic ex is 24,600 you can prob get it for closer to 22k, so if a civic si is priced @ 28k you might be able to get one for 25k? Dang I really hope this isn't true....</TD></TR></TABLE>
They would never do that just because they wouldn't need to. They are still making profits off their other cars and wasting money in R&D to make it a car to compete against snailed motors doesn't seem logical to me, I would assume the same for Honda. Hondas are known by the masses for their reliability and good emissions. Essentially, Honda hardcore enthusiasts represent a small population of the Honda owners in the US.

 

Man some of you have very poor reading skills. I was saying Honda could come out with the type R being as what I stated, to COMPETE WITH FORCED INDUCTION cars. Dang people read....
If Honda wants to compete with some of these other car makers, they need to step it up, Honda being one of the only reliable car makers might not be so in a couple of years. Cars that I knew of before that were crap are now better quality. Mazda for example. Mitsubishi is another one, who seems to be steppin up in the reliability category. Remember reliability isn't some godly gift only Honda can have, its quality, and consistency. Even Ford can encompass this if they wanted to spend the money. So that being said, Honda could come out with a car to compete with others in its near price range, or it could come out with a type R like I guess you guys want with a redline of 8.4k and come with 225hp, and not really be worth the money..... how about a high revving NA motor with forged internals that can stand the racing platform, and for the love of Pete give us LSD!!!
Honda =

 

Imagine if they did bring it over... i want see everyones reaction to this. Their facial expression has to be priceless. =]

"pinch me..."

 

i doubt they'll bring it over... they're trying to make the acura nameplate prestigous like lexus... and do you see lexus w/ a entry level sport compact? is300 competes w/ teh tsx so i think the rsx's replacement will be the tsx ... the 06 si will take care of the tuners

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TemperdSoul &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Man some of you have very poor reading skills. I was saying Honda could come out with the type R being as what I stated, to COMPETE WITH FORCED INDUCTION cars. Dang people read....
If Honda wants to compete with some of these other car makers, they need to step it up, Honda being one of the only reliable car makers might not be so in a couple of years. Cars that I knew of before that were crap are now better quality. Mazda for example. Mitsubishi is another one, who seems to be steppin up in the reliability category. Remember reliability isn't some godly gift only Honda can have, its quality, and consistency. Even Ford can encompass this if they wanted to spend the money. So that being said, Honda could come out with a car to compete with others in its near price range, or it could come out with a type R like I guess you guys want with a redline of 8.4k and come with 225hp, and not really be worth the money..... how about a high revving NA motor with forged internals that can stand the racing platform, and for the love of Pete give us LSD!!!
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Since when has honda or acura been about speed? I still dont understand your point. Honestly I think the type-s is so potent that I wouldnt buy a type-r because of the theft factor, insurance, and the low power. What would be the point when a type-s with i/h/e can easily make numbers similar to the R?.


Modified by BlackSage at 2:34 PM 10/10/2005