can you put a 1.8 dohc vtec motor in a civic si without any wiring problems? my buddy said you could without any problems, that it would just go right in there like the b16a2. also said the acura motor had more horses?

 

yes it has more horses. i believe 00 gsr's had 200 hp or near it.
now it might only bolt up and wire directly up if you got the same ODB engine. then it should be plug and play. i think the same motor mounts will work also. but im not sure.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by graveltravel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes it has more horses. i believe 00 gsr's had 200 hp or near it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

GSR had 170hp.

Type R had the nearly 200hp.

 

it will fit in there without any problems but it has to be the same obd for the wiring to work right

 

it's all plug and play!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_ekcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GSR had 170hp.

Type R had the nearly 200hp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

for the money just throw an r in it

 

wat kind of money is this swap

 

save your self some money and just buy a gsr short block or type r short block and youll get more power for your money spent

 

bump for acura motor!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jsteezy1290 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">save your self some money and just buy a gsr short block or type r short block and youll get more power for your money spent
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yes if the head is not damaged do this.

 

just put in a 1.8 short block , no reason to replace the entire motor, save your self some money to put towards some other mods.

 

sell your stock block and purchase a B18C1 or B18C5 short block...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EM1SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sell your stock block and purchase a B18C1 or B18C5 short block...</TD></TR></TABLE>

C5 shortblock, A2 head, minor P&P, type r cams = poor mans r

 

i dont want to spend alot of money. cheapest way is the best right now

 

just buy my si...i'm in dayton...runs great!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SirRevvs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

C5 shortblock, A2 head, minor P&P, type r cams = poor mans r</TD></TR></TABLE>
Cheapest and best

 

guys i just want a factory motor no mods

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by graveltravel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes it has more horses. i believe 00 gsr's had 200 hp or near it.
now it might only bolt up and wire directly up if you got the same ODB engine. then it should be plug and play. i think the same motor mounts will work also. but im not sure.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where do you people come from????!!! No wonder people don't know anything, with information like this!

Hey kid, look at the first few threads in this forum. There is somthing called a "swap guide" telling you all of this information. Look around!

 

bump!!!!

 

hey can i just buy a
http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30021 since i already have the stock tranny. what would i have to do to switch it over to my obd or is it campatible

 

That's a b16, just like your stock motor, except I think that's an OBD1. Is your stock motor broken?

 

i bought it without one

 

then a B16 is going to be your best bet for the money. GSR and ITR motors make more power, but people want crazy $ for them. Skip that SIR and pick up the SIR II, here's a writeup of the differences in B16 motors that I got off of somebody else:

There are 4 general classifications for B16A motors:

B16A SiR
B16A SiR II
B16A2
B16A3
It is often confused as to which motor is which. In this article, we will help you to pick out the clues as to which motor is which, and which one you should get for your B16 swap.

Although I just noted that there are 4 classes of B16A's, we can break that list down into two groups.

Our new grouping of B16A motors:

B16A SiR
B16A SiR II, B16A2, B16A3
Why this breakdown?

It all comes down to OBD. OBD, or on board diagnostics, are broken down into levels, based on the years they are instated. For more info on OBD, please read our article on OBD - Explained.) The B16A SiR, commonly and mistakenly called the B16A1, is an OBD-0 motor. This was the first level of OBD installed on motor ethicals. The other 3 are either OBD-1 or OBD-2 motors.

The SiR was designed for a 4th gen chassis. It works great with an 88-91 civic. However, try putting this motor in a 92+ civic and the problems will just start to flow. The tranny on the SiR is cable. the 5th gen chassis uses hydraulic actuation.

Why is the SiR cheaper?

It's cheaper for several reasons. First, it's older. Second, the A2/A3/SiR II have a higher demand, as they work in newer cars and have a higher output.

How to tell the difference between an SiR and an A2/A3/SiR II

SiR uses a cable tranny- 5th gens are hydraulic
SiR has a lower compression ratio, 10.2:1 and makes 160ps
A2/A3/SiR II have a higher compression ratio at 10.4:1 (10.2:1 A2/A3) and make 160hp (A2/A3) or 170ps (SiR II)
A2/A3/SiR II motors have a better cam profile
A2/A3/SiR II have better oiling functions, keeping things better lubricated
SiR has cast aluminum oil spray bars while the A2/A3/SiR II are made of extruded aluminum.
A2/A3/SiR II have a single- 4-wire O2 sensor instead of 2-single wire O2 sensors
A2/A3/SiR II MAP sensor is an integral part of the throttle body, not an external one with a tube.
A2/A3/SiR II harnesses are grey. SiR has cream colored ones.
SiR is PGM-F1, clearly labeled on the intake manifold, andA2/A3/SiR II are MPFI
SiR valve covers have "DOHC" written in a larger font size than "VTEC"
A2/A3/SiR II valve covers have "VTEC" written in a larger font size than "DOHC"


88-91 B16A's are known as the SIR 1. It uses OBD0 Ecu's, and cable tranny's. The engine serial number is usually 1xxxxxx.
92+ B16A's are known as the SIR 2. It uses OBD1 or OBD2(2b), and hydraulic trannys. The engine serial number is usually 5xxxxxx
The #'s at the end of the block code tell where the engine originated from. The Americas, Europe, Austraillia, etc.....
ALL Japanese engines, generally do NOT have a number after them. (** see below)
SO, if you have a B16A1,2,3,4, or 5. It is usually NOT a true JDM engine. Don't mistake a B16A1 as being a cable unit, because it could be a hydraulic. There are other ways to tell what year it is exactly.

**NOTE: There is ONE exception to this rule. In 90-91, the Civic/CRX SiR came with a B16A1, but they are SUPER rare, and came 160HP with 10.4:1 compression. Their counterpart of the same year was a 158HP, 10.2:1. They are very difficult to tell apart.

 

its not plug and play bitches! you have to change out the timing belt mount the one attached to the block with the two studs upwards, when putting Integra motor in 96-00 civic