Sparco Driver's gear
Not sure about prices... but take a look at
Primm Motorsports http://www.primmracing.com
OG Racing http://www.ogracing.com
hope that helps
Primm Motorsports http://www.primmracing.com
OG Racing http://www.ogracing.com
hope that helps
Demon Tweeks (UK) has great prices on Sparco, OPM, etc. I bought my OMP suit from someplace in the US (can't remember who) and I could have gotten it for almost half (it was a $700 suit) by buying from Demon Tweeks.
The downside is shipping... it rarely cost less than $50 but if you order enough it is still worth it.
The downside is shipping... it rarely cost less than $50 but if you order enough it is still worth it.
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You don't need an SFI patch if it is a 3 layer suit or if you wear underwear.
BTW - The whole SFI thing sucks monkey *****. The FIA Primm suits are the same ones Sparco sells in the States with the SFI patch (per SparcoUSA, who won't put that in writing for some reason).
Politics... BAH!!!
BTW - The whole SFI thing sucks monkey *****. The FIA Primm suits are the same ones Sparco sells in the States with the SFI patch (per SparcoUSA, who won't put that in writing for some reason).
Politics... BAH!!!
Demon Tweeks (UK) has great prices on Sparco, OPM, etc. I bought my OMP suit from someplace in the US (can't remember who) and I could have gotten it for almost half (it was a $700 suit) by buying from Demon Tweeks.
The downside is shipping... it rarely cost less than $50 but if you order enough it is still worth it.
The downside is shipping... it rarely cost less than $50 but if you order enough it is still worth it.
My Sparco doesn't have an SFI patch. It has the FIA rating on the collar and it's never been questioned in tech.
Having not looked closely for a few years, it was interesting to double-check the SCCA rulebook on this issue. It really doesn't look that wacky...
SCCA does not actually require the SFI rating - that is just certification that the suit meets their minimum requirements, making it unnecessary for the inspectors to investigate the matter further. SFI 3-2A/1 gets you "legal" but you have to wear fire retardant undies unless you step up to 3-2A/5 or higher (/10, /15 or /20). You can achieve the same legal result with three layers of any of the approved materials however, absent the SFI rating. This presumes that it is obvious that the materials of the suit are on the SCCA list (Nomex, PBI, etc.)
The SFI rating scheme is a result of litigation-happy US culture. SCCA can, by deferring the standard to SFI, claim that it is adhering to accepted standards in its requirements, should it need to try to dodge a liability claim. NASCAR has historically taken a different route, making it the driver's decision what he/she wears for protection - the logic being that, by mandating a particular design, the sanctioning body is endorsing it as sufficient protection. Should an injury occur in that kind of situation, the plaintiff could make the case that the sanctioning body is liable because it did not require sufficient protection. Neither approach is any kind of assurance that a suit won't be successful, of course.
Perhaps most interesting, SFI gets $$ from the manufacturers to test the sandwich of material that they want to sell, and then for each patch to sew on the suit. The tests (at least it was this way 10 years ago when I was more involved in this kind of thing) applied only to the exact sandwich tested - down to color - so it can be a costly undertaking to have a full line of suits tested and SFI'd. Sparco doesn't want to pay to put the patch on suits that aren't destined for the US market simply because it costs them money to do so, even if it is just the cost of the tag.
Kirk
(edit) Sorry - FIA homologation is only recommended and doesn't figure into the requirements at all.
[Modified by Knestis, 3:25 AM 3/5/2002]
SCCA does not actually require the SFI rating - that is just certification that the suit meets their minimum requirements, making it unnecessary for the inspectors to investigate the matter further. SFI 3-2A/1 gets you "legal" but you have to wear fire retardant undies unless you step up to 3-2A/5 or higher (/10, /15 or /20). You can achieve the same legal result with three layers of any of the approved materials however, absent the SFI rating. This presumes that it is obvious that the materials of the suit are on the SCCA list (Nomex, PBI, etc.)
The SFI rating scheme is a result of litigation-happy US culture. SCCA can, by deferring the standard to SFI, claim that it is adhering to accepted standards in its requirements, should it need to try to dodge a liability claim. NASCAR has historically taken a different route, making it the driver's decision what he/she wears for protection - the logic being that, by mandating a particular design, the sanctioning body is endorsing it as sufficient protection. Should an injury occur in that kind of situation, the plaintiff could make the case that the sanctioning body is liable because it did not require sufficient protection. Neither approach is any kind of assurance that a suit won't be successful, of course.
Perhaps most interesting, SFI gets $$ from the manufacturers to test the sandwich of material that they want to sell, and then for each patch to sew on the suit. The tests (at least it was this way 10 years ago when I was more involved in this kind of thing) applied only to the exact sandwich tested - down to color - so it can be a costly undertaking to have a full line of suits tested and SFI'd. Sparco doesn't want to pay to put the patch on suits that aren't destined for the US market simply because it costs them money to do so, even if it is just the cost of the tag.
Kirk
(edit) Sorry - FIA homologation is only recommended and doesn't figure into the requirements at all.
[Modified by Knestis, 3:25 AM 3/5/2002]
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