What are the possible causes a clutch would go limp. AKA, theres no pressure when you push in the clutch petal, and it wont come out of gear.

I'm thinking 1 of 2 possible causes.
1. Air got into the clutch fluid somehow.
2. Something physically broke(spring on pressure plate, etc)

Are there any other possible causes?

Reason I ask...
This happened to me. The clutch fluid was VERY low, but Acura said they needed to replace the clutch. $1,600 later its working. I asked for the old parts back. Old parts look perfect... I asked whats up and the acura dealer says its normal for clutchs just to wear out like that. I questioned them about the parts looking fine, but got no further. I'm thinking I should dispute this, but want all my facts straight first..

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Modified by jond at 11:41 AM 10/5/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What are the possible causes a clutch would go limp. AKA, theres no pressure when you push in the clutch petal, and it wont come out of gear.

I'm thinking 1 of 2 possible causes.
1. Air got into the clutch fluid somehow.
2. Something physically broke(spring on pressure plate, etc)

Are there any other possible causes?

Reason I ask...
This happened to me. The clutch fluid was VERY low, but Acura said they needed to replace the clutch. $1,600 later its working. I asked for the old parts back. Old parts look perfect... I asked whats up and the acura dealer says its normal for clutchs just to wear out like that. I questioned them about the parts looking fine, but got no further. I'm thinking I should dispute this, but want all my facts straight first..

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did the clutch feel like it was working? pedal returned to normal position? any change in how the clutch functioned?

When my clutch master went bad the engagement point changed and eventually I couldn't get it out of gear.

If the pedal/clutch system was working and it wouldn't come out of gear, I'd suspect the clutch/pp to be the problem, if it showed signs of hydraulic system problems then it probablt wasn't the clutch.

Post pics of the old parts.

 

I had a similar problem in a 92 gsr, absolutely nothing from the pedal. Turns out that the clutch shattered in alot of pieces.

I would also like to see pics.

 

definitly sounds like a pressure plate problem... keep us updated

 

The first thing I thought was a broken line somewhere, but if there aren't any leaks then you can rule that out. I've had slave cylinders go bad before but I'm thinking this sounds more like either a master cylinder problem or a pressure plate problem.

Even so, $1600 is hellish for a clutch job.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by walker111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would also like to see pics.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

man that car is causing you problems.
You should have never bought it.
What went wrong with the dizzy last time?
Check your clutch master cylinder, if it is leaking, near the pedal it is bad.
Check your slave cylinder, if it leaks, it needs to be changed.
If that doesn't work, put a new clutch.
If I was close, I'd do it for 300
it's really not that hard
and 1600, ****, thats a new engine
lol

 

need better looking women n the car

 

If the clutch fluid was going low, I would have checked for leaks first. About a year ago, my clutch master cylinder was leaking near the pedal so I replaced it. Just this past week, my slave cylinder was leaking so I replaced it (if you stick your finger in the rubber boot and your finger comes out wet with brake fluid).

both times when one of my cylinders were going bad, my clutch fluid was low, I was losing pedal pressure, and the engagement point was getting lower and lower.

I've had clutch problems before, but when I had clutch problems, I never lost clutch/brake fluid in the reservoir...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What are the possible causes a clutch would go limp. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I boiled my clutch fluid last week. The pedal went right to the floor.

&lt;-- doh!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I boiled my clutch fluid last week. The pedal went right to the floor.

&lt;-- doh!</TD></TR></TABLE>

boiled clutch fluid? what, in your parts car?

 

On the lighter side.

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I hear they have all kinds of pills and supplements for that!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 255.255.255.255 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">boiled clutch fluid? what, in your parts car? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, go figure. Stupid mechanic forgot to check the tightness on a few bolts between runs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On the lighter side.

I hear they have all kinds of pills and supplements for that! </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave-ROR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

did the clutch feel like it was working? pedal returned to normal position? any change in how the clutch functioned?

When my clutch master went bad the engagement point changed and eventually I couldn't get it out of gear.

If the pedal/clutch system was working and it wouldn't come out of gear, I'd suspect the clutch/pp to be the problem, if it showed signs of hydraulic system problems then it probablt wasn't the clutch.

Post pics of the old parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah the petal returned to normal position. It was just EXTREMELY easy to push it. Felt like you could push it with your finger. But pushed all the way in, it still would not budge out of gear.

This happened all of a sudden. 1 minute it felt 100% fine, normal engagment point, normal petal pressure, etc. Next minute its dead. Just like that.

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I'll try to get some posted this weekend.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MugenHonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I was close, I'd do it for 300
it's really not that hard</TD></TR></TABLE>
The majority of the cost was parts. I have all comptech stuff so they wanted to replace everything

Side note, I could def use a hookup. Anyone close to Richmond whos good with hondas?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The first thing I thought was a broken line somewhere, but if there aren't any leaks then you can rule that out. I've had slave cylinders go bad before but I'm thinking this sounds more like either a master cylinder problem or a pressure plate problem.

Even so, $1600 is hellish for a clutch job.</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly waht I was thinking... had a similar problem first a hard line broke in the SI, then the slave cylinder went out on the hatch back... I'm waiting for a master cylinder to go out now so I can test ou tthis omnipower one... but yeah $1600 is a **** load of money...[shameless plug] I have a tilton single plate clutch/flywheel/pressure plate i'd sell you for a 1/3rd of what they charged you[/shameless plug] of course then you just gotta install it, which isn't to bad...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGRhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">exactly waht I was thinking... had a similar problem first a hard line broke in the SI, then the slave cylinder went out on the hatch back </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well when I took it back because the throwout bearing broke 3 hours after I got the car back, they said that the slave cylinder was leaking so they replaced it...

The clutch fluid was way below the 'low' line though when this happened. My theory is when I took off pretty hard, the little bit of fluid in it moved back enough to let air in.

Problem is, how do I prove that and get my money back?

 

That has happend to me before. The throughout arm that attaches to the throughout bearing and slave cylinder in the tranny cracked and broke in half.

 

Added pics if anyone can see any physical problems that would cause this.

 

hard to see much of anything in those pics..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Added pics if anyone can see any physical problems that would cause this.

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damn dude, you need a new digicam. or some steady hands

 

the same thing happend to me, check the soft line that comes off the hardline to the slave. Mine was slowly leaking, if there is any liquid on the line that could be your problem.

 

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Side note, I could def use a hookup. Anyone close to Richmond whos good with hondas?

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Richmond, Va? I live in Mechanicsville and had a similar problem this past summer. I replaced the clutch slave cylinder and clutch mast cylinder. It ended up being a pressure plate problem. The fact you lost quite a bit of fluid would indicate a problem with the master cylindre or slave cylinder. If you want , I can come by to check it out for you.