Where to get metal gasket for Tial 38mm??

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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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Default Where to get metal gasket for Tial 38mm??

The damn gaskets that came with it keep blowing out...

I called Cometic, and they weren't quite sure what i was after.

Any help is much appriciated.

(i heard i can just run it without the gasket, but im unsure of this)

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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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You need a gasket, trust me.
You can find them all over the place, google is your friend.
ATP has um.

The ones with the metal rings are way better.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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what you need isn teh deltagate fire ring gasket. Many people sell it on here just any turbonetics dealer should be abl to help you the tial paper is crap

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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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I've read that if the surfaces are flat then you can use copper spray. Or if you use a WG gasket maybe a little copperspray on that will help? not sure if either of those are good ideas though.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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Copper spray on the gasket will not help if you are burning them up.
Iv seen similar problem with some setups. You just need a gasket with the "fire ring" on it. Lots of company's make them not just turbonetics.

As I said, ATP has um.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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who ever told you that you need a gasket there is wrong it they are both blat surfaces then you dont need one
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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i know some running w/o the gasket and just the fire ring.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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http://www.turboneticsinc.com/pa_gaskets.htm

Part# 20142

Worked great for me running 20+ PSI of boost after I blew out a few other gaskets.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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The fire ring is between the WG and manifold, I dont remember if it came with one to go between the WG and dumpube. I need one though, the flange on my dumpube is warped so bad I can see straight through it in the middle.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by White Smoke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need a gasket, trust me.
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ehh wrong answer try again. most people on here don't run a gasket including myself and i have never had a problem. hmm spend 20 plus shipping on a gasket or just save my money and run without.. i think the better option would be to run without.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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ive been running w/o one the past 4 months...no problems here...
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flip1199 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ehh wrong answer try again. most people on here don't run a gasket including myself and i have never had a problem. hmm spend 20 plus shipping on a gasket or just save my money and run without.. i think the better option would be to run without. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Eh you try again, first off learn how to read. The gasket I posted is 5$
Second off running w/o a gasket or at least a layer of copper spray is a dumb idea IMO. I have tried it on 2 or 3 setups and it always leaks a little. Do what ever you want, im not to cheep for a 5$ gasket that is supposed to be there per all w/g instructions.

Id be willing to bet say 20$ that OVER 50% of the setups on H-T use the gasket.
You obviously only need it on the manifold side as its the only one seeing pressure.

And people are getting confused about the fire ring in the wg (IT MUST BE THERE OR THE WG WILL NOT HOLD BOOST) and the little metal ring around the gasket which turbonetics calls its "fire ring gasket".
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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Or just shoot me your mailing address and I will mail you one in a regular envelope. The ones I have I make outta this grafoil (some chesterton material, I don't recall the exact pn) stuff I have at work. It's presssed carbon sheets with a stainless steel layer inside. I forget exacly the part number from mcmaster, but we use it at the power plant I work at for high pressure steam applications (I'm talking 1250-1500psi, 1000 deg F and ~300 klb/min flow), so it should work fine for a wg. It's great stuff.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by White Smoke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Second off running w/o a gasket or at least a layer of copper spray is a dumb idea IMO. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hit the search button then type in "tial gasket", then click archeived and tell me what u see. i'll save u the time. you'll see post like this:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1350577

if the manifold surface is flat there shouldnt be a leaking problem.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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yeah most people dont runt them
do you run a gasket inbetween you turbo and your downpipe? no
ok there your anwser
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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You neet the one that has the metal ring It will last for ever
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vaporboy12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah most people dont runt them
do you run a gasket inbetween you turbo and your downpipe? no
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true^^^....im not running no gasket on my downpipe,manifold and wastegate for over 1yr now and no sign of leak thats on 14lb + daily...lol
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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i never ran one and always had problems until i used a touch of gasket maker
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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i run 17 lbs daily...blew 3 gaskets...now i run without one, and it doesnt leak at all. No gasket material or anything
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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i bought an atp one for $5

i had to get an oil restrictor anyway so i went ahead and splurged.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dumpeDc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You neet the one that has the metal ring It will last for ever </TD></TR></TABLE> You have to have the fire ring between the WG and manifold or your boost level will be all messed up, and you will have boost spikes and sheeeeet
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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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Ive been running with out one for a few months now with no problems, i had it on there at first and it blew out after 3 days.
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by White Smoke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As I said, ATP has um.
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these pictured have the "fire ring" ???
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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no
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 08:14 AM
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http://www.permatex.com/auto/a...81878

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