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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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I don't care for this thing...




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What would be a good replacement? Please provide a make/part number and why you like it. Pics would be good as well. Thanks in advance. Anyone want to buy this thing let me know.
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dsav4shawn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What would be a good replacement?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Perhaps an oil temp sensor.
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Perhaps an oil temp sensor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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Wideband 02 is the only useful 02 gauge.
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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If you only are going to have one gauge I would guess that oil pressure is the one you want to have...
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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i have a high quality defi-D oil temp + oil pressure gauge for sale. still new in box. white face.
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flux &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you only are going to have one gauge I would guess that oil pressure is the one you want to have...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I vote boost gauge, but that's me.

No one cares about oil temp, EGT is mostly useless..

Oil pressure? you've got V-Attack to tell you when you starve...

Stock RPM gauge is close enough..

UEGO is good for tuning and diagnosing issues quickly. But... really... how often do you need that?



So... yeah... I have a bunch of gauges, I glance at A/F and EGT on track, pay attention to oil temp (stupid me), glance at oil pressure when I think I have an issue, ignore boost....
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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It's always good to know what time it is!

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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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Lol, isn't that what the uber cool amber clock is for?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's true, unless you have the Jasma series Lightweight block-off clock plate that says "integra"
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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It's useless and just a light show unless you have a wideband O2 sensor and signal reader.
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flux &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you only are going to have one gauge I would guess that oil pressure is the one you want to have...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly!
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wideband 02 is the only useful 02 gauge.
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Looks like what I want... how much??? and does anyone have one?


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the other gauge (to the right side) is my boost gauge.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mythias &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's useless and just a light show unless you have a wideband O2 sensor and signal reader. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea man... still trying to figure out all the stuff. BTW... you are the man and thanks for all the help. Car is running much better now. Can't wait to get it up to cheese-steak land and tune it.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 06:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dsav4shawn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like what I want... how much??? and does anyone have one?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have one. It works well, although it reads 0.5 richer than my tuner's wideband.

Search AEM UEGO.

I don't have a good picture of mine, but here it is (off)
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 06:19 AM
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wow look at all those fancy toys
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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WOW thats alot of guages! Looks like an airplane!hehehhe j/p
I would probably rock the oil temp and pressure then go for a wide band

but on a street / drag car I would rock a wide band and a oil pressure

PLX also makes some nice wideband units with kool accesssories
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Search AEM UEGO.

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Pricey.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by walker111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pricey.</TD></TR></TABLE>

$195-ish at Summit, not bad. Wideband O2's aren't cheap. The cheap ones are useless.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wideband 02 is the only useful 02 gauge.
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wideband is useful of course, however if you have to decide bewteen some type of AF gauge vs none, you're better of with narroband, it will give relative readings, you will know if you're running lean. if the car has been tuned, you should be fine without a/f, but like i said, its better to have narroband than nothing.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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This is what you need
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is what you need
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LOL, that's totally awesome! I haven't seen that one before.


Modified by Chris F at 8:46 PM 9/29/2005
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec.dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

wideband is useful of course, however if you have to decide bewteen some type of AF gauge vs none, you're better of with narroband, it will give relative readings, <U>you will know if you're running lean</U>. if the car has been tuned, you should be fine without a/f, but like i said, its better to have narroband than nothing.</TD></TR></TABLE>


What agitates me (now) is that the A/F gauge just stays in the middle under acceleration and then (under decel + no gas..) bounces to lean and between (stoich and lean) like a freaking light show. Makes me nutz.... perhaps something that wasn't random would be good?


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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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I have a techedge Wide Band setup for sale. Follow the link in my sig.

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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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Its not random, the ECU "dithers" the a/f ratio around (above and below) the stoichometric level in an effort to make the converter work.

Well, that and the fact that it (a stock O2) can pretty much only tell the difference between "lean" and "rich", and not how lean or how rich (for which yo need a wideband o2 sensor).
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dsav4shawn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't care for this thing...

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What would be a good replacement? Please provide a make/part number and why you like it. Pics would be good as well. Thanks in advance. Anyone want to buy this thing let me know.</TD></TR></TABLE>

dsav4shawn, if this is 52mm / 2 1/16" sell it to me. I'm gonna use it with a PLX-300 and a narrowband to wideband converter.

It's the sport comp gauge right? 3375?

http://www.autometer.com/cat_g...=2817




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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dsav4shawn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What agitates me (now) is that the A/F gauge just stays in the middle under acceleration </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow...

If you trusted that A/F, you're lean under full throttle. I used to have one of those LED A/F gauges, it would always read full rich under WOT even with I/H/E, ported throttle body, etc. (on a different OBD2 car, not the ITR)
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