Just had a couple of questoins on doin a turbo set up on my car. Throwing on a Garret t3/t4 in a few days, but im questionable on what pig-back, ecu, or a whole reflash i should go with. Hondata s300 looks good but its $600, ChromePro is what i've heard alotta guys talkin about but im not sure if i wanna get ride of my stock type r ecu. most guys ive talked to said i needed a P72 with ChromePro chip in it, and said its easier tuned then hondata, and thiers more tuners around here. Reflashing im not really big on, nor do i know much about, makes me kinda wonder if it gives it boost reading capibilities, not sure? alot of my buddy's are runnin Neptune, but im not goin for 500-700whp so i dont think i need something like this, those guys are all "open motor" kinda guys, im just lookin for like 400whp maybe. Another thing is, if i get a piggy back, does it work with a OBDII to ODBI conv. ? Any help would be appreciated, im just tryin to get everyone's opinons before i go ahead and make my R go woosh.. thanks..

 

Go back to K/preschool, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.

Sorry, but that's the first stuff that came to mind after (trying) to read your post.

 

Forced Induction. Its a forum. And I think you should try there.

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And no you cannot have a "Get out of K/preschool free card"

 

GTFO j00 gay fock!

 

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I see no evidence of it being related to an ITR, other than a malformed screen name.

 

Eh, I'm drunk and just assumed he had an ITR. I will edit my post in Opienese.

 

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And that malformed screen name is hiding in a corner hoping this will all be over soon.

 

well thanks for the party pics guys.. never pissed my pants from a girl before.. if i knew it was gonna be that kinda party, id have stuck my dick in your mashed potatos... ill post this on the F.I. forum, didnt realize it was there.. new here..

 

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Don't do a piggyback. If you do, I have a EManage and tuning software and cable for sale, cheap.

Best bet is a chipped ECU for Hondata, Uberdata or Chrome [EDIT: Or Neptune]. Do one of those, you'll be thankful later that you didn't waste your time on mickeymouse solutions.

-Chris

 

I'm working on a bottle of 2002 Sonoma Merlot from/by Kenwood, thinking I might make it three shortly (next in line is a Rodney Strong 2001 Sonoma Merlot) and get to bed earlier than 4AM (like last night).

BTW --- OwNeD PiC! LOL!

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Frankly, ignorance is no excuse ... unless you're claiming to be an ...

 

right on.. thanks man, i have a buddy who had his car tuned by a guy thats pretty big into neptune, his head is a lil big for chrome everyones sayin, but ill kick him in the nuts, and wave some cash.. hope it works..

 

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That's no small task.

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Sorry, but you do not "throw on" a turbo...it's not like a replacement headlight bulb.

OK, that being said, if you are worried about $$ then don't do it. Seriously. Turbocharging the R with any success takes a lot of extra stuff. It's not just a manifold, turbo, downpipe kinda thing. You have to spend the money if you want to play, especially for "just 400 hp". I mean, my car has a fully built, sleeved motor with lower compression pistons pushing 14psi on low and is making less than 400whp. You changing any of the internals? What, are you going to run like 2psi? High compression pistons will be destroyed by boost in any quantity. $600 for a good ECU, possibly the MOST essential part of the whole system, should NOT be a concern for you if you plan to do this right and have it last more than a week. I mean, I would go all out and buy the AEM Standalone and a long tuning session with a good tuner and run a **** turbo with a used manifold, used intercooler, and banged up intercooler piping before I ran all new components and a cheap *** fuel management system. I'm sorry...I know everyone has to start learning sometime, but this is just WAY over your head with how you're sounding.

 

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more boost less booze..

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Cash doesn't always work, trust me ... been there done that with a Hondata Guru.

 

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I know the feeling. The girls around here just run me a tab.

 

hell ive "heard" and i quote "heard" of turbo type r's runnin over 400 on stock internals.. i mean.. im not boss hog when it comes to tuning, but thats where realiablity really comes from correct? not what you have or what you dont, but the tuning of the car.. and no im not opening my motor, just wanted to run about 7psi right now.. later ill sleeve it, lower the compression.. and go from there..

 

7psi will get you around 240whp - 270whp (with my experience), and will probably blow your engine. Tuning isn't everything...there are just some things you CAN NOT do on a high compression motor and expect it to last long. When I had my GSR I boosted 9psi on a T04E with an amazing tune job using the Hondata S200b unit, and I was told that was probably the most I could run on THAT engine...the ITR's engine has a higher compression, meaning less boost...I made roughly 250whp on a mustang dyno with that GSR. But, hey - do what you want. Just don't expect sympathy when you feel compelled to write the "My ITR blew up today" or expect much help when you have to write "What's that clunking noise, and why won't my car start anymore?"

 

well i plan on gettin lower comp. pistons with in like 3 months...i KNOW my tuner is a very good tuner. but its not a everyday driver. maybe tune it for 7 run it @ 5? i know a lil on a lean side is better for my comp. ratio.

 

Are you serious? Like...this isn't a joke right? RICHER IS BETTER unless you want to detonate, which I guess isn't a really big deal to you...damn.

 

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Bah, too many variables to guess PSI versus HP. I made 295 WHP on my R for about 6-8 months, it lasted through 4 HPDE weekends too.

Depending on how you count, that lasted a "long" time.

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Just listen to your tuner. Run it rich.

 

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yeah, also depends on what kind of dyno you're on too. Anyway, you won't make 400whp on 7psi

 

I think some of the people assume if you have high compression you can't have a lot of boost. That is a mistake. The room for tunning error is less with higher comp.

The B series blocks do have there limits though anything above 8 psi or so and your asking for trouble. If you want 400hp from a stock block go buy a dsm.

 

rich rich rich.. sorry.. lol.. beer.. heh