Hey guys, I know this is out of an integra but i have your motor and need your help ASAP! its probably a real easy/small fix but im new to distributers and all, my main concern is the shaft moving in and out and weather i should just replace entire distributer or not, well anyway heres what i got to say, HELP ME PLEASE...

well today i changed my plugs/Distributer Cap and Rotor, and just oil change/radiator flush, well anyway, when i went to take off the actual rotor, the set screw came out no problem but the rotor wouldnt slide off! so after trying for 10 minutes, i broke all the plastic off so all that remained was the small metal gear on the shaft. after some vise-grip and hammer/flathead magic, it came off,
BUT while i was trying to get it off, the shaft itself moved in and out a few times, which id assume isnt a good thing, so i tried knocking it back into where i thought it was. put everything back together, turned it over and it wouldnt start. check for a spark and i wasnt getting one. now im wondering what i have to do to fix this?
ive searched and came up with that it may be the coil/igniter but im not sure. should i just buy an entire remanufactured distributer? are they hard to install? or what else can i do? before i did any of this the car ran fine with just a small idle fluctuation occasionally and it bogged occassionally as well, im sure this will fix it but i think i may have done something when the shaft inside the distributer moved in and out. i REALLY need some help here guys, the cars immobile for now and i dont want to dump $$$ into having it brought into a shop when i can do it myself, ive already called out of work today, i cant do it again tomorrow! if i replace entire distributer will it fix my problem?
BTW this motor is a JDM H22A, i ordered my parts for a 95 2.2l Prelude vtec (H22A1) and they matched. please let me know asap if you know! thank you

 

the jdm h22a distributor is different from the us one. you need one with the internal coil. i got lucky and bought mine from a company around my area that actually had a listing for the JDM H22a(weird) and it was the right one and i have been using it for months now.

i think you can get them from one other place on ebay but im not sure.

actually since i can get them over here i can order one for you, and then ship it for you if you want. I think it was like 300 bucks.
let me know.

 

is it really? i was told that it never matter when i bought the cap and rotor, the rotor fit no problem but the cap wouldnt fit because the spring was external and the cap never had a pocket for the spring to fit into. theres no way around it? it HAS to be JDM you think?

 

i was told that the cap and rotor was the same as the b18b dizzy, but i do not know about the internals. i would think that a vtec dizzy is different than a non vtec dizzy. i know they were on my d-series

 

ya i did the research when mine broke. for the caps you can use most honda internal coil caps and rotors, but for the distributor itself it needs to be the JDM one unless you convert it to the external coil by lots of wiring and you still need to get a new dizzy.

i just bought the one that i am able to get its alot easier and its the right one.

 

for a jdm h22a with internal coil, you can use cap and rotor from a 90-91 accord or from a 92-96 civic sohc.

 

how do i tell weather or not its internal or external? i think they gave me an external cap for the 95 prelude vtec (h22a1), where as on my distributer now theres a small spring sticking out, and the cap has no space for this to push into, and thanks for you help so far, its appreciated.

but why do you think i cant even start the car now?? it started and ran fine before and when i changed those things it wont start, itll turn over just wont start, any ideas on that exact issue? thanks

 

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you can convert a usdm dizzy to internal coil too. its much easier than the other way around. Also, I'm pretty sure they did give you the wrong cap. You can't expect honda parts guys to know the diff in usdm and jdm parts (honda parts dept people here are some of the dumbest people i've ever met).

When you say it won't start, are you using your original cap?

 

yeah, once i put all new parts in and it wouldnt start, i put the old spark plugs back in and i had to put the old cap on anyway because the one they gave me couldnt go on (because of spring on my dist.) the only part on the car now that is replaced is just the rotor. its really annoying me now, ive gone 2 days without a car and ive called over 10 parts shops for a replacement and cant get anything unless i order direct from japan (which is going to be costly and take time) the only thing im concerned with is how the old rotor was stuck on the shaft and wouldnt budge. i had to break all plastic off the old rotor so all that was left was small metal gear, after prying and hitting it it finally came out, BUT the shaft it was on moved out a little bit, i did hit it back to where it should be. but im stumped on why its not starting! its killing me! the shaft itself is a little dinged up but that shouldnt be the reason for this, the new rotor fit right on. it couldnt be the rotor itself would it? it looked identical to old one so i dont think it is, please help me out here! i think im going to remove the whole distributer and bring it to a shop to test it, is this a good idea and can they test it off the car?

 

do you want to stick with an internal coil cuz they suck in the long run! I have a jdm h22 dizzy ill sell ya if you want, or you can find a h23 dizzy which has an external coil than buy an external coil.

 

yeah ive read ALOT about all these distributors and what not, what exactly has to be done to convert this to an external coil? what parts do i need and how hard is it to do?

How much would you sell the JDM H22 distributor for? pics? condition?

I just dont know if i should replace this entire thing, it worked fine until i pulled the old rotor off, now it wont even start. any more suggestions on why this is happening? can the shaft coming in and out do something? im going to pull the whole distributor tomorrow and look at it, anything i should look for inparticular? let me know, thanks

this is what ive heard about cap rotor...
94-95 honda accord ex internal coil distributor cap
94-00 acura integra NON vtec internal distributor cap
What Cap To Use
For JDM internal coil use 00 civic SI or 90-93 accord ex cap and rotor, its confusing sometimes!!

 

idk if your old one can be fixed. My jdm distributor has about 40k miles on it, looks new, ill sell it to ya fro 65 shipped.

 

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What Cap To Use
For JDM internal coil use 00 civic SI or 90-93 accord ex cap and rotor, its confusing sometimes!!
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90-91 ONLY! 92-93 switched to external coil

 

http://www.distributorking.com

 

hey rude, whats the eta on it if i get it from you? i really need it but i dont know if i can wait til my money order gets to you, then you send it out, unless theres an easier way maybe? check my vouches on T-I if you need to about transactions ive had.

search, thats some info i pulled off a JDM H22a swap FAQ site, and ive read a few misc. posts from other forums as well. if i end up using this one (which i doubt) ill have to pick up that cap then, thanks

hatejdm, ive checked on that site as well, i think they are going for about $249 there, brand new. i dont know how long it would take for them to ship to me, have you dealt with them before? any idea on how long it would take?

thanks all for inputs, hopefully i get this all situated soon!

 

oh yeah also, if i take my distributor off now and replace with another one, what exactly has to be done to it? do i need to inset it a certain way or what? ive heard something about marking a line for timing purposes but im not sure on what or how to do it. i think my timing was a little off before i even touched distributor anyway, any info on that would be appreciated.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shocker979 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hatejdm, ive checked on that site as well, i think they are going for about $249 there, brand new. i dont know how long it would take for them to ship to me, have you dealt with them before? any idea on how long it would take?
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took 4 days for me. as far as what you need to do to it, that depends on whether you want to convert to external coil, or stay internal. Marking the dizzy location is just to retain timing. I would recommend getting a timing light and making sure that its right after the install.

 

yeah i may just have to buy a new one or the one from the guy on here. when its taken off, is the small gear at the end suppose to be able to spin freely? or locked in position? on mine it doesnt spin but i checked one offf a 90 accord and it span freely? any ideas

 

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spin freely. you probably fucked off the bearings. is there a lot of brown liquid crap leaking out into the dizzy cap?

 

shocker979 pm me your addy and ship to you asap as long as i get paypal im willing to help you out.

 

there wasnt any liquid into the dizzy cap, but there was a bunch of brown dust (may be from being old, who knows) but yeah it couldnt spin at all, do you think it could be easy fix or just get another one?

rude, sent you a pm

 

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bearings are f***ed. you need a new dizzy.

 

yeah im talking to rudelude now about getting his, if this all goes through all let ya guys know if it works! thanks for the insight on everything though, ya learn something new everyday!

 

$75 sent to rudelude for his distributor!! ill let everyone know when shes running again. anything i should know about marking timing or anything like that?

 

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don't bother marking it, unless you're tuned its not that critical. just put the dizzy in the middle unless you have a timing light, then you can set it perfectly to stock again.