I just swiched to the s2k filter along with some RP. When I turned the car on the oil press light stayed on for a sec and turned off. Now it seems like my idle dropped a little. Is it normal for the s2k filter to lower the idle?

 

there are NO advantages to using a s2k filter.. honda made the filter for the prelude for a reason.. use it

 

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That's incorrect there's a HUGE difference between the construction of the S2k filter design and makeup and the Fram built US spec generic Honda filter. for incorrect information. But the S2k filter is larger than the OEM US Honda filter which might account for the additional time to build oil pressure. Did it only do this when the filter was dry?

 

i never said they werent different.. i said there wernt advantages... if the s2k filter was better for a h22 honda would have used that as the main filter.. my info is not incorrect.. they didnt put them on the h22 for a reason.. there made for a f20c-22c
to not reading

 

Well you're info WAS incorrect because you said there's no advantages to running an S2000 oil filter. That right there is incorrect so stop trying to correct others that know what they're talking about. An S2000 filter is better, better filtering/cooling and a raise in oil pressure. Who doesn't like having a bit better oil pressure

 

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Yes, the filter was dry. The oem prelude filter I have is actually made by Honeywell.

 

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There ARE advantages however. Much higher quality filtration media that filters smaller particles, larger sized filter area by at least 1.5x, contruction not made out of cardboard, better end caps, better bypass system... Again to incorrect info and attitude. There's a ton of reasons why to go with the S2k filter and I'd recommend everyone to do it esp when you can get the coupons from Honda. It's a much better filter overall and I'd recommend everyone to use it if they can afford the marginally extra cost.

Ever wonder why Honda just suddenly decided to go with a filter almost half the size of the filter they were using? Cost reduction... If you use the OEM Honda filter will your engine sieze? No, but there's a much better filter than the Fram OEM Honda filter in the S2k filter.

Bottom line: The S2k filter is hands down a much better filter. If you want a better filter on your engine, especially if you're going for longer drain periods, GET IT. I wouldn't trust the OEM Honda filter to filter anywhere past 7500 miles at the absolute most.

Edit:
mkazm83: Honeywell is the parent company of Fram just as an FYI. But I wouldn't worry about it if it was only the first startup. If it continues then maybe, but a dry filter needs some time to get oil into it.

 

^^Thanks

 

all i have read about it said it wasnt better... if it raises oil pressure and such, i stand corrected. I searched and found nothing supporting your theories about the oil pressure. But i didnt know that honda switched. I never use oem filters anywyas. Buti dont use fram either. But you saying it will last 7500 miles??? I thought 3000 was about the life... But reguardless.. I plan on trying this and seeing if the oil pressure is better. if it is.. my appologies.

 

It will be I've done it!


This filter will raise your oil pressure also, and it's jdm tite so you can think you're cool! Puts oem honda filters to shame!



Manufactured by Honda Japan, this oil filter gives superb filtration properties in comparison to the normal Honda filters our vehicles come standard with. The fact is that the USDM Honda oil filters are manufactured by FRAM. Long term results can be substantial! The HAMP oil filter is available in 2 different sizes. The larger one is manufactuered for mainly pre-2001 model vehicles. The smaller size is built for larger vehicles. The smaller size will work with all cars and will give higher and more consistent oil pressure which is ideal for race purposes.

 

does the s2k filter fit the 4th gen?

 

yes

 

hmm, i never knew about the s2k oil filter having all those advantages. Looks like my next filter is gonna be a hamp s2k

 

Just as an FYI the S2k filter and the HAMP filters are slightly different. The HAMP ones are the ones imported from Japan and are slightly different than the S2k filters. I believe the HAMP ones are more expensive and are larger filters. The S2k ones look very much similar to the OLDER Honda filters except they're made by Toyo Roki in Japan to the higher standards.

 

Toyo Roki makes the synergy that's what you're saying right? Because that's what the site says where I got that info! Holds better oil pressure because the relief spring or whatever it is different/better right?

 

where can you buy the s2k filter?

 

http://www.passwordjdm.com/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=358

the 2nd item down is the HAMP filter in the smaller size

 

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Again, the HAMP filter is not the S2k filter. I have no idea how it compares to in size vs the S2k filter, but I guarantee that it's not the same as the S2k filter. The only thing you need to do to buy the S2k filter is walk into the dealer and ask for it.

 

Does the fact that this filter raises oil pressure also mean that it decreases flow volume? Are there any downsides to using this filter on a prelude besides the cost difference?
A pro's and con's list would be very informative.

 

the only reason i can possibly see for raised pressure is that the filter is smaller, if it reduced flow, pressure coming out of the filter would be high, but then later through the motor pressure would be lost due to lack of flow....

 

Reduced flow scares me. The last thing i want for my engine is to starve it for oil!
Does anyone else share this concern?

 

Just as an FYI you're all referring to the HAMP filter and NOT the S2k filter. The only way the S2k filter might increase pressure is due to the higher filtration of particles. There really isn't a downside to running the S2k filter. However, though I haven't read much about the HAMP filters it seems they were designed for the race division and not designed to be run for very long. IMO it's 3-5k miles on the HAMP filters @ the most, which isn't something you need to worry about on the S2k filter. Lastly, higher pressure does not always mean reduced flow. The oil pump has a release valve to relieve excess pressure, so regardless of filter it's always bleeding pressure away.

 

yeah, like i was saying, not overall pressure drop could happen, and since the pump bleeds of excess then its good...

i always change at 3k no matter what, because then if i get caught in a pickle and have to wait a thousand or so extra miles im not worried.....

 

Changing @ 3k is a waste of time, energy and money. I'm changing @ 10-12k and getting the oil tested and it's perfectly fine.

 

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A pro's and con's list would be very informative. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Just so you know guys, the oil pump has an internal regulator to control oil pressure before the filter, so no matter what, you can't get a higher pressure than the pump will produce. However, most oil pressure sensors are placed after the oil filter. If this is where you have your aftermarket oil pressure gauge and you see an increase in oil pressure here, that means LESS restriction in the filter media. Less restriction in the meida doesn't mean less filtration, it all boils down to the quality of the filter media. Hope that helps....