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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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thinkin' about lowering my car in a month or two. need to decide. here are the factors:

92 cx hatchback w/HX rims
motor is bone stock
not really thinkin about any h22's but later on maybe b18b
willing to spend around $100

now i go on ebay for like almost all my parts but i really like the options of having coil overs so you can lower n raise your car to your desired height 1-3 inches. the problem is THERES SO MANY. i was looking into:

$50 w/shipping its like $60 (some unknown brand, typical ebay) if you seach 92-95 civic coil overs on ebay you'll see it but i wanna know what yall think would be the best quality for $100. im really not trying to go over budget, i have other stuff planned for the car too . all ur opinions and inputs welcomed!
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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put your flame resistant suit on...

IMO you dont want your car to be sub-standard right? so why get sub-standard parts?
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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well im really new to aftermarket suspension stuff. i just want my ride to look a bit nicer and handle a little better. i dont have monster loads of cash RIGHT NOW just to lower my car. i'd like to do it for the most decent amount of money. and its true some generic ebay crap is bad but some actually live up to expectations.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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To be honest w/you those coilovers will work for your car...but then if you don't replace your struts, you'll eventually blow your struts and the ride quality won't be satisfactory. If I were you I would save up a little more and maybe get some nicer coilovers that you can by different springs for, so you can be able to get different springs for ride quality, launching, or cornering. In the end you will be a lot happier, and won't want to replace them down the road. I've done the same thing, and it's a bitch when you have to replace aftermarket parts for aftermarket parts that are of a better quality. It just depends on which direction you go with your car.

I've used generic coilovers as well as friends have, and in the end they won't help you out as much as a good coilover set up. There's numerous topics on suspension set ups as well as a forum so you can read up on set ups that other people are using.

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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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so basically if you go coil overs on an OEM strut bar it'll soon blow huh. HMMM have useful info. i think i've heard that about some aftermarket springs but very good info none the less. so i should save up for quality aftermarket struts and coil overs at the same time?
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jxmac2o6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so basically if you go coil overs on an OEM strut bar it'll soon blow huh. HMMM have useful info. i think i've heard that about some aftermarket springs but very good info none the less. so i should save up for quality aftermarket struts and coil overs at the same time? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes! in the meantime, you dont have to worry bout going sideways over speed bumps
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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if you buy those coilovers or any of the cheep ones on ebay your ride will be bouncy, your handling will be worse proably than it is now and some are dangerous. I have seen the collars on friends cars crack. I have owned one pair on a 90 DA and I threw them in the garbage. Seriously cut stock springs would be better than going that route................you should really save up like $3-400 for a set of used omni powers or some thing
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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ya dude you dont want to spend your money on coilovers that in the longrun wont be any good. and the saying "you get what you pay for" really lives up to it. Save your money and get something thats really worth having. youll be happy you did
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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if you go cheap on suspension from the beginning your most likely gonna end up paying more in the long run. imo i would save 200 bucks for used ground control coilovers.
i love my gc coilovers.

im lowered on stock shocks and ive beed riding this low for longer than a year and they are still doing their job


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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 11:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93ejay1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you go cheap on suspension from the beginning your most likely gonna end up paying more in the long run. imo i would save 200 bucks for used ground control coilovers.
i love my gc coilovers.

im lowered on stock shocks and ive beed riding this low for longer than a year and they are still doing their job

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you should take your advice and invest in some shocks. i'm suprised your stock shocks haven't blown yet being that low, maybe they're already blown?
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 05:38 AM
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this should be in the suspension forum...but like the others have said dont go cheap on your suspension...
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 05:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hawjboi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this should be in the suspension forum...but like the others have said dont go cheap on your suspension...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Look around the classifieds for what you want. I found a set of Tein-S Tech springs w/ shocks for $40.

Seriously, don't cheap out on this stuff. Imagine you lowered your car with those ebay coils. Now imagine you're going around a back road a little faster than you should. You go over a bump, the shocks compress and then decompress right as you go into a sharp turn. Not a pretty picture.

I would love to get a GC/Koni setup, but right now I can't afford it. I'll ride out my Teins until I can afford a better setup.

edit: asked a mod to move this.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 05:44 AM
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im riding lower than that on ebay coilovers for a year now the bouncy ride doesnt bother me (used to hydralic rides)
plus my struts are still going strong, but on da real if you want a comfortable ride don't cheap out.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 06:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by life sux die &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you should take your advice and invest in some shocks. i'm suprised your stock shocks haven't blown yet being that low, maybe they're already blown? </TD></TR></TABLE>
i know i should but i havened had money to buy some and when i lowered my car it only had 66k miles so the shocks had a lot of life left
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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at the bare minimum i'd get some kgb gr-2s and a set of springs.. but you really should look into a full coilover setup. trust me, its well worth the money.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 06:34 AM
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While cheap suspension is tempting now, eventually you will realize it wasn't the best idea, and will end up replacing it with quality parts anyways.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 06:51 AM
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I had some ebay cheap-os on my first car. But now that I have GC/KYB AGX the difference is night and day. Save your money. Handling/suspension is a vital part of your car and the safety of it/you so don't go cheap with it.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 06:55 AM
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you get what you pay for. i perosnally wouldnt buy ebay anything just for the fact that there is no warranty or gurrantee(slp?) on the product. save a little more and go with the skunk 2's you can find them from a retailer for around 250-260 http://www.jhpusa.com/catalog/...fb958 and proably around 200-220 off ebay.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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I used some cheapo coilovers on my last car with stock struts...

Had them on there for over 2 years without any problems at all. The ride was stiff, but I was riding pretty low so I liked it that way. My struts didn't blow out or anything like that. The ride wasn't bouncy at all...

Question for you all that are recommending buying more expensive coilovers like ground control... what makes them better than the cheap eBay ones? GC coilovers are just sleeves like the eBay ones. The design is the same, so I don't see how cheap coilovers would blow your shocks when expensive ones won't.

Someone enlighten me.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ1 wilcox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I used some cheapo coilovers on my last car with stock struts...

Had them on there for over 2 years without any problems at all. The ride was stiff, but I was riding pretty low so I liked it that way. My struts didn't blow out or anything like that. The ride wasn't bouncy at all...

Question for you all that are recommending buying more expensive coilovers like ground control... what makes them better than the cheap eBay ones? GC coilovers are just sleeves like the eBay ones. The design is the same, so I don't see how cheap coilovers would blow your shocks when expensive ones won't.

Someone enlighten me. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The springs are different. GCs are made in a more quality controlled environment as opposed to how certain Ebay ones are made or constructed.

Companies like Tein, GC, or Skunk2 put research time into the development of their products so they know what to tell their customers to expect.

Ebay companies see an open market and think "Hey, its just a spring." So they buy springs, put them on a sleeve, and sell them without doing research.

That's the reason real racing/driving companies charge more for their products. Yes, $300 for GCs may seem like a lot, and you may think you're just paying for the name, but you also have to remember they had to put time into the development of the product. Ebay companies can sell cheap because they don't have to make up for the testing and devlopment of their products.

GCs on stock struts have just as high of a chance of blowing your struts as ebay ones. What people are reccomending is that he get a good spring/coil (Like GC) and a good strut (KYB/Koni)
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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Good info

I was thinking it had something to do with spring rates and durability. I have heard that cheap springs will sag over time.

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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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ebay = BOING BOING BOING BOING BOING!
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ1 wilcox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good info

I was thinking it had something to do with spring rates and durability. I have heard that cheap springs will sag over time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks. That's something I had forgotten to mention. It's not a given that they'll sag, but a lot of them have a tendency to.

I'm not saying you won't get a good pair of springs, but buying cheap Ebay brands you have a high chance of getting a cheap, crappy set. If you go with a company that has a reputation you don't have to be as worried about quality, durability, ect.
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