Alright, i searched and couldnt find anything on this

What i currently have is a 89 Civic SI. Nothing is really done, it is bored out a little bit, new fuel pump, that is it.

I am looking to do an engine swap

I have been looking into B16, B18, and B20. I cannot find any specs on ANY motors online. Google will not load for me

Can some1 help me decide?

I have the D16A non-vtec. It does alright, i beat my friends mustang GT in it, but am looking for a little more edge since people are starting to buy hatches because of me. Need to stay on the top.

 

THE YOU DIDN'T SEARCH HARD ENOUGH

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This has been covered to exhaustion! There are thousands of posts on each subject and you will get your answer faster.



Search here SEARCH

 

his isnt a new GT, its one of the 80 styles. i used the search and couldnt find any1 going from non-vtec to vtec, sorry for the inconvenience

 

What would I need? some1 please help me

 

Alright, I have decided on either B20 or H22a, If i get B20, it will be turbo'd right away, H22a would wait a while..
What problems might I encounter swapping from D16A (non-vtec) to the Vtec B20 or the H22a?

 

Any1?

Please help! Getting on the ball here within a month before xmas break. Help me now!

 

since everybody wants to waste their time telling you to search, i'll be a nice guy and help ya out a little, but please for the love of god get a b20. you will love it and never regret it. especially if its turbo. the b-series motors are way more dependable than the h-series, not to mention less weight too. i have an 89 si too, only with a b16a. since yours is an SI the wiring will be less complicated. save the stock wiring harness, you may need it for the b20. the b20 swap will be more straightforward than the h22 also, so less headaches on your end. as for a parts list, you'll need custom mounts (hasports are the best), custom swap linkage (hasport there too) and you'll probly have a few small wiring issues with the vtec, and obdo to obd1 issues, meaning you might need a wiring conversion. for more info go to http://www.hasport.com they have all the swap parts you need, plus they can cover the wiring conversions too. i would advise though, since you are new to swaps, get educated about the swap you are doing. knowledge is power, and in your case, knowledge will save you money and time in the end. the more you know, the less of a headache it will be to do this swap.

 

THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I am going to get on this right away. I have done swaps before, just not on imports

 

okay, tell me if this is the right stuff i need

http://www.jdmcars.com/merchan...rfeng

http://www.jdmcars.com/merchan...iring

http://www.jdmcars.com/merchan...iring

http://www.jdmcars.com/merchan...ounts

and then like alternator, intake, manifold, all that stuff

Anything else?

Since i am going from a non-vtec motor toa vtec motor, wouldnt I need the wiring for Vtec? If any1 has AOL, please IM me at reamo04 and help me


Modified by 89HatchSI at 11:27 AM 9/25/2005

 

i might of read it wrong but did you just say you might need some wireing for the vtec on a b20????? lol not unless your going CRV-tec

 

ya go crv-tec, its the best of both worlds

 

pmed

 

Alright, I am starting this in probably a month when i have some time off school. This is what I have found that I need

OBD1 ECU (P30?)
OBD0 to OBD1 Conversion wiring
B20 LongBlock
Shift Linkage
Golden Eagle B20 Vtec Conversion
The b20 mounts for a 88-90 EF Civic
ARP Bolts
Is there anything I am missing?

 

hi do you know about engine swaping? im trying to put a b18 motor from an integra into my crx do i have to move any motor mount s to do so or do i have to use all my crx mounts on the ls motor? you can email the answer to me @ tricked_out_drive@yahoo.com

 

You're gonna need a vtec head and some axles.

 

a vtec head, B16 or a b18c (dunno about the b17 X_X ) and you need the "jumper harness" you could proly go with a stand alone system for the b20 vtec might be a little more reliable for a the CRV-tec. some sort of transmisson might look for a Xsi tranny. you'll need DA knuckels, and the b20 axels will work i think (can anyone confirm this?) you'll have to upgrade your suspension if you ever want it to handle the right way. and maybe invest in a block gerdile?

-Panda

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89HatchSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright, I am starting this in probably a month when i have some time off school. This is what I have found that I need

OBD1 ECU (P30?)
OBD0 to OBD1 Conversion wiring
B20 LongBlock
Shift Linkage
Golden Eagle B20 Vtec Conversion
The b20 mounts for a 88-90 EF Civic
ARP Bolts
Is there anything I am missing? </TD></TR></TABLE>

a stock B20 does not have vtec... therefore you will not need to wire in vtec... it is common, though, for people to put a vtec head on the b20 block... aka- B16, B18c/c5 ... then you would have to wire in vtec, putting a vtec head on a b20 block gives you the best of both worlds, you get power down low via the large displacment of the b20 bottom end, and the power up top with the vtec head... dont listen to all these people who will try to tell you that b20 are weak... they are pretty stout motors as long as theyre taken care of and the swap is done right... they are not meant to be revved extremly high... as far as your question goes you will need axles like CalhounBOi said and a vtec head if you wanted to do that before you swapped the motor in... what kind of arp bolts are you getting btw and why? and as hondaxsimike said- do your research... and if you can, have someone there with you who has done a swap like this before... it will help out a hell of a lot... any other questions you have just come right back here on H-T and ask away... every now and then youll get a jerk but youll still get your info youre looking for... as long as you search you should be fine... i remember when i did my first swap about 3 months ago... i did it all by myself and i kept coming here for help and these guys were really helpful
-Josh

 

um, no one said the b20 was weak.. we all said it was good, and he is probaly getting head bolts, and head studs sense you can't reuse the head studs, at leat its not a good idea. jees crimson did you read the post above yours?

 

If you're going to turbo that b20, prepare to crack sleeves! Just get an LS or plan on sleeving that b20.

 

explain how that makes ANY sense... you would have to re sleeve a Ls as well if you wanna put any kind of boost on it safely.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM Panda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">um, no one said the b20 was weak.. we all said it was good, and he is probaly getting head bolts, and head studs sense you can't reuse the head studs, at leat its not a good idea. jees crimson did you read the post above yours? </TD></TR></TABLE>

sry about that man... i had clicked on the "reply" button before you had posted and had to walk out of the room for a few minutes... thats why i didnt get to read your post... i never saw it... i know nobody said that the b20 was weak but ive seen similar threads where multiple people tell the guy that its a weak motor when it really isnt... i just wanted to warn him before someone actually does... and when i asked why he was getting ARP bolts i was assuming that he was going to just swap the motor in and then swap a vtec head on later... i wasnt thinking that he would swap the head before he put the motor in
-Josh

 

Alright, so i need the stuff i mentioned AND
B20 axels
DA Knuckles
B16 Vtec Head
ARP Head bolts
Will the golden eagle kit come with a "jumper harness"?
Also , will I need a new radiator or distributor?
And is the P30 ECU the right one?

I am going to be doing this swap all myself. I have no local shops that have any experience with honda swaps other than the actual honda dealership, but they wont swap in a B20 into a hatch

I am going to try to find some1 in the KC area or something to come down and help me and pay them or something, but no luck so far


As far as tranny, i have a stock SI tranny from my 89, could i use that just get the shift linkage (like 230 or w/e)


For the guy below me - I am going off what i have found, i have done research, I am asking about this on here to make sure i have my stuff right.


Modified by 89HatchSI at 6:12 PM 9/26/2005

 

Man you seem like you really need to do some research before you tackle this. Search on here or even google. im in stl if you could bring it here i would do the whole swap for you in a weekend(start fri afternoon, driveable sunday) for $500.

No you cannot use your tranny you need a b-series tranny and whatever axles go with the intermediate shaft on it. No the golden eagle kit doesnt come with a jumper harness. No you do not need the da knuckles.

Seriously do some research.

 

I have done research, these are the things i have been told, or have found. This is why I am asking in here is so I get the facts before I do this. I have no way to get the car to STL
I have enough money to get the parts i will need. I am also trying to find a place around here that can do forged internals and resleeve it

 

i think the company is arias, they make full conversions for LS vtec and B20V-tec you will aslo need a plumbing kit, because you will have to drill and tap the block. ONLY if your gunna do a vtec swap.i belive inlinefour.com carries them but there shipping sucks , and you will need integra suspension, do you have aim msn or yahoo i could explain all this stuff at one time and as i remeber things